[Mind's Eye] Re: The Protocols of Reaction

When Rome burned, the Dark Ages began.

On Aug 20, 7:51 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Creating order from chaos requires entering into the chaos. We are
> often too content to rest in outdated but comfortable social orders.
> The balance of individual and consensus reality becomes infinite in
> mutual creativity.  Finding and maintaining that point in experience
> is a real challenge.  Once found, old orders fall away, new orders are
> created, the circles of familiarity become smaller and at the same
> time eternal as folks capable of sharing the unseen unite in action.
> Rome burns, and a new order emerges.  Yet all we can see or feel is
> Rome burning.  Why?
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> On Aug 20, 2:57 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2011/08/civil-disorder-and-loo...
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> > We had riots in England a couple of weeks ago.  Our media was full of
> > people, including reporters, stating this was a new issue and
> > unprecedented.  I did not believe this as I watched - though I did see
> > a great deal I recognised from GTA games.  The above link to the
> > Economist makes use of a book by Pearson I read years ago - it casts a
> > very different view that our riots were really only history repeating
> > itself.
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> > I don't believe human thought can 'rid itself' of emotional response
> > (or should).  I do believe we can do better than 'knee-jerk reactions'
> > - but I also believe this is quite difficult and beyond many people
> > left to their own devices.  I believe our democracies are weak at the
> > moment and that this is because we can't argue very well - hence
> > politicians appeal to much that is populist and wrong using highly
> > dubious techniques.
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> > I'm sure I could identify the protocols that appeal to 'ignorant
> > Idols' that lead to situations of 'nopolitics' in our societies and
> > thus the rule of the very rich through "economics" in a way far more
> > centralised than any politburo.
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> > I've pretty much given up on democracy.  Teaching is very frustrating
> > because you want to encourage self-learning and resourceful human
> > beings and also know this is too much for most - democracy is
> > similar.  The struggle is knowing this and not wanting to be elitist
> > and sneer at others.  I succeed a bit in 'adventures with ideas' but
> > the same mistakes in reaction crop up time and time and time again in
> > wider social action.
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> > I wonder if outing the protocols of the dreary positions people take
> > in reaction could help us actually find dialogue?- Hide quoted text -
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