[Mind's Eye] Re: Bavwu's Perfect World

I think the problem is that things crash if we don't consume, now that
we are in a global recession maybe we could focus on building value
and not just junk to keep people busy and to keep the cycle going.
An economy not worth saving - http://dalependell.com/the-retort/an-economy-not-worth-saving/
Building an economy based on value -
https://sites.google.com/site/becomingbavwu/home/survival/economic-collapse/save-the-economy

I strongly feel that we need to go back to basics and stop building on
what even will make the biggest buck, yes things run based on demand,
but people do not know what they need, so instead of giving the people
what they want, I propose we give them what they need.
Knowing what is right or what we need can be hard, but seeing what is
wrong and what we could do without is easy, just look at what we don't
have in common with everyone else and it probable isn't a need. I
think we are ready for a back to land sort of movement that is not for
the planet but for our own well being.

Here's a thought, when the stock market crashed in the 30's people
killed themselves. Now I don't know about you but I feel there is
never a good enough reason to kill yourself. These smart successful
men felt the world was over for them, these are the type of minds I
fear that have created our world and influence our media or such, the
only reason they are not look at as retarded is because they have cool
stuff, I wish people focused and were accepted and judged based on
their value towards society as a whole.

When you throw someone into the wilderness they suddenly change their
mindset or they die, I hope this global depression does just that,
adapt to survive and stop playing this stupid money game and focus on
community and personal advancement and not the size of house or speed
of car. Don't get me wrong wanting a fast car and a big house creates
jobs and keeps the cycle going, but it is a cycle built on false needs
and is not always going to be in demand, if we could build something
that people use because they need it or it helps them, then all you
have to do is make one product for each issue and trade it for the
energy it took to produce it for something you need in return and skip
the CEO's getting rich and just live simple and trade value for value
based on sustainability.
And as for ranking people, if you know how someone could be a ten
then you can look and say they are just a six, but then you much share
how you came up with the six and what they could do to be a ten, then
they have no reason to feel insulted, because now it is just up to
them to do what you suggested to be a ten, or if they disagree with
you on how you rank, then it won't matter to them. I think if everyone
is on the same page or at least open then there will be better
communication and people speaking there minds and not holding back due
to social proof.

On Sep 22, 8:51 am, rigsy03 <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Consumption has created jobs as well as wars. The problem today is
> that consumers are nervous and not spending which impacts the economy.
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> On Sep 20, 1:04 am, Bavwu <bav...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I don't really feel that the rich vs. poor is close to as important as
> > the mind sets of the individuals, take the rich people's money and
> > give it to the poor would not help anything, they would still be as
> > lost and incontinent as they were before, alcoholics would still be
> > drinking, people would still not be sharing, and after the poor got to
> > experience the 'grass on the other side' the world would still be in a
> > terrible state. Also as I'v posted on my twitter, I feel its our fault
> > for consuming that we have made the rich people so rich.
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> > I do agree that there shouldn't be a gap, and that people should be
> > valued based on value and anyone could be 'rich'
> > See link below for example of value and the impacts it could have for
> > us.https://sites.google.com/site/becomingbavwu/home/survival/economic-co...
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> > On Sep 9, 4:24 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I guess we barely understand language.  Bavwu was never much use when
> > > under fire.  The first move needed is to disarm the rich through
> > > actual democracy, as they currently stop and meaningful decisions we
> > > might bavwu.
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> > > On Sep 9, 8:59 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I disagree because I know what you mean, Molly. Common language is the
> > > > result of agreed communication. Your pointless invitation proves the
> > > > opposite.
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> > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > common language is a good start
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> > > > > On Sep 9, 7:19 am, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Although I largely agree you last sentance highlights the problem.
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> > > > > > Getting humans to agree is an excersise in fultility, and what I
> > > > > > 'know' to be right may indeed differ from what others 'know' to be
> > > > > > right.
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> > > > > > On Sep 9, 5:19 am, Bavwu <bav...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > There is an inevitable trend becoming more and more apparent as
> > > > > > > globalization and technology is connecting us all and we are booming
> > > > > > > through the Information Age. Standard and quality of living is
> > > > > > > increasing and we are getting more advanced, but the higher we climb
> > > > > > > the more obvious it is that we did not start on the proper foundation.
> > > > > > > Greed and self interest have molded our world so dramatically that the
> > > > > > > idea of Bavwu seems far out.
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> > > > > > > Living sustainable and advancing without side effect should be on all
> > > > > > > our minds, it should be the first thought when dealing with any
> > > > > > > problem we face. The bottom line needs to move away from money and
> > > > > > > self profit and to global stability and equal rights.
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> > > > > > > Sustainability shouldn't even be our main goal, sustainability should
> > > > > > > just be our lifestyle, while living that life we then will have the
> > > > > > > means to focus our brain power on more mental needs and begin forming
> > > > > > > a new reality based on intellect and collaboration.
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> > > > > > > Technology may be what we have been waiting for to make the transcend
> > > > > > > into our new collective global society. I believe we have the
> > > > > > > technology to connect every person in the world, I also feel we as a
> > > > > > > whole, we have all, or could learn all the solutions the people of the
> > > > > > > world faces if given the opportunity and the common goal.
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> > > > > > > If we could define Bavwu in every situation and scenario, all we would
> > > > > > > need is the will to do what we know is right.- Hide quoted text -
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