[Mind's Eye] Re: Religion As People In The West and Middle East Understand

Therefore ? I didn't see the logic.

Dharma is universal values... I agree that isn't very universal !

rigsy03 wrote:
> How is one instructed by Dharma except by tradition? Therefore it does
> not exist as a Universal.
>
> On Sep 9, 10:12 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A post elsewhere... which cud be juxtaposed with thoughts generally
> > expressed here :
> >
> > " ... the word " religion " itself is a Western construct, meaning as
> > it came to be practiced by people - looking for salvation, believing
> > what they were told, and launching on their conversion drives
> > everywhere they went with their gun and swords and recycled loot.
> >
> > " Dharma is a totally different construct... the whole universe of
> > values and truths in and of which all beings are born, in and of which
> > they live, in and of which they depart, and in and of which they are
> > reborn. It is life and living itself, which exhorts us to do the
> > needful and the right, even while leaving us with the freedom and the
> > choice to do otherwise, as we please but with their respective
> > consequences.
> >
> > " Dharma is life itself, and the way of living in accord to universal
> > values and truths."
> >
> >
> >
> > ornamentalmind wrote:
> > > Yet, are those traditions in any way strictly monotheistic? Most that
> > > I am aware of do not make such a claim; although as you say some do.
> >
> > > When it comes to the presentation of an argument, the terms used are
> > > often important as Vam knows. Making a claim for all cases in such a
> > > case is asking for rebuttal. Of course, that may have been his intent!
> >
> > > On Sep 9, 4:16 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I would disagree in that there are mystical traditions to many eastern
> > > > and western religions that do none of those three.
> >
> > > > On Sep 9, 6:34 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Monotheistic Religions, as they are, do three things :
> > > > > 1  Assure salvation, the power for which is entirely with another
> > > > > 2  Demand Belief in a defined presentation of thought and ideology
> > > > > 3  Convert others to their fold through material lure, physical and
> > > > > mental fear and reward.
> >
> > > > > Atheistic disciplines, pantheistic and polytheistic ways of living do
> > > > > none of these.
> >
> > > > > They are therefore not religions as the people in the West and Middle
> > > > > East believe in and understand !- Hide quoted text -
> >
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