[Mind's Eye] Re: Why Has Allan Been Barred From The Group ?

whoops, spell check strikes again. That should read censorship and
prejudice.

On Sep 17, 1:42 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am suggesting that Allan was banned much too soon while others have
> been allowed much more rein and offered much worse offense before
> being banned.  How about the is reinstated with warning?  Respect
> among us is important.  It seems to come and go with the membership.
> Most folks can rein it in when asked.  I suspect Alan is among them,
> having conversed with him for many years in this group.  Censorship
> and predicable can kill a group, for certain.  Somewhere there is a
> balance.  I suppose that is why they call it moderation.
>
> On Sep 16, 12:40 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> > Molly, are you suggesting no moderation?
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> > On Sep 16, 4:03 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I agree.  Please reinstate Allan.  The conversation has been much
> > > worse with members who were left to their own exit and not moderated.
> > > We were just starting to come back together as a group.  Let this be a
> > > cohesive factor in that, and bring Allan back.  Then, let respect
> > > among colleagues rule the day.
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> > > On Sep 16, 5:11 am, Francis Hunt <francis.h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> > > > I find the action of banning Allan completely out of proportion to the
> > > > "offence," if such it was, which he "committed". In the heat of a debate
> > > > anyone can sometimes go a little too far.
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> > > > The action of banning is like using a sledgehammer to try to kill a gnat.
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> > > > On 16 September 2011 00:43, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > > > > gabby, thanks for the response. That is what I had guessed about you
> > > > > and Vam but wanted to be sure since you brought it up.
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> > > > > Allan is banned from Minds Eye.
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> > > > > On Sep 15, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > No, Orn, not feeling attacked by Vam but being attacked by Vam. But I am
> > > > > > able to stand my man here, thank you.
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> > > > > > What is Allan's current posting status, is what we'd like to know. Is he
> > > > > > being banned, set on moderation or have only some of his posts been
> > > > > deleted?
> > > > > > Thank you for providing us with factual information to help us increase
> > > > > the
> > > > > > level objectivity.
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> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com
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> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Moderation is and always has been subjective. It also is not
> > > > > > > democratic no matter what pretense or trappings are added to it.
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> > > > > > > gabby, if you feel attacked by vam and want action, let me know
> > > > > > > specifically and I'll address it. I use judgement when it comes to
> > > > > > > individual cases.
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> > > > > > > Vam, yes it is serious and I've never taken the task/responsibility
> > > > > > > lightly.
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> > > > > > > Also Vam, as egalitarian as your suggested method appears to be we are
> > > > > > > not about trials here.
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> > > > > > > On Sep 15, 9:41 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I believe banning is a serious matter.
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> > > > > > > > I really have not kept track of what Allan has said or done. In the
> > > > > > > > event, I feel there should be a separate thread titled : Why
> > > > > so-and-so
> > > > > > > > deserves to be banned, by the Group rules !
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> > > > > > > > The person can then be clearly charged, allowed to respond, and a
> > > > > call
> > > > > > > > taken by the Moderator in full public view. Shouldn't be difficult.
> > > > > > > > After all you wouldn't be doing it every month.
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> > > > > > > > On Sep 15, 8:24 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > Vam, I deleted the offending posts. Allan himself knew he had gone
> > > > > > > > > over the line and said so in one of his remaining posts. He
> > > > > followed
> > > > > > > > > that one with more unprovoked direct attacks (self
> > > > > admitted/defined)
> > > > > > > > > upon me. He knew what he was doing and what the result would be.
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> > > > > > > > > Evolution, freedom, acceptance and toleration include self
> > > > > > > > > responsibility.
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> > > > > > > > > On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > If true, as Allan himself informs me, the act seems
> > > > > disproportionate,
> > > > > > > > > > a result of disbalanced mental process, and plain gross, as in
> > > > > > > > > > absolute unfit for a Group comprising of such evolved members who
> > > > > > > > > > believe in freedom, acceptance and toleration.
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> > > > > > > > > > I sure would like to hear the Moderator speak on this matter.-
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> > > > --
> > > > Francis Hunt
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> > > > *francishunt.blogspot.com*

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