been allowed much more rein and offered much worse offense before
being banned. How about the is reinstated with warning? Respect
among us is important. It seems to come and go with the membership.
Most folks can rein it in when asked. I suspect Alan is among them,
having conversed with him for many years in this group. Censorship
and predicable can kill a group, for certain. Somewhere there is a
balance. I suppose that is why they call it moderation.
On Sep 16, 12:40 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Molly, are you suggesting no moderation?
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> On Sep 16, 4:03 am, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I agree. Please reinstate Allan. The conversation has been much
> > worse with members who were left to their own exit and not moderated.
> > We were just starting to come back together as a group. Let this be a
> > cohesive factor in that, and bring Allan back. Then, let respect
> > among colleagues rule the day.
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> > On Sep 16, 5:11 am, Francis Hunt <francis.h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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> > > I find the action of banning Allan completely out of proportion to the
> > > "offence," if such it was, which he "committed". In the heat of a debate
> > > anyone can sometimes go a little too far.
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> > > The action of banning is like using a sledgehammer to try to kill a gnat.
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> > > On 16 September 2011 00:43, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > > > gabby, thanks for the response. That is what I had guessed about you
> > > > and Vam but wanted to be sure since you brought it up.
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> > > > Allan is banned from Minds Eye.
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> > > > On Sep 15, 1:57 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > No, Orn, not feeling attacked by Vam but being attacked by Vam. But I am
> > > > > able to stand my man here, thank you.
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> > > > > What is Allan's current posting status, is what we'd like to know. Is he
> > > > > being banned, set on moderation or have only some of his posts been
> > > > deleted?
> > > > > Thank you for providing us with factual information to help us increase
> > > > the
> > > > > level objectivity.
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> > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:31 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com
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> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Moderation is and always has been subjective. It also is not
> > > > > > democratic no matter what pretense or trappings are added to it.
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> > > > > > gabby, if you feel attacked by vam and want action, let me know
> > > > > > specifically and I'll address it. I use judgement when it comes to
> > > > > > individual cases.
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> > > > > > Vam, yes it is serious and I've never taken the task/responsibility
> > > > > > lightly.
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> > > > > > Also Vam, as egalitarian as your suggested method appears to be we are
> > > > > > not about trials here.
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> > > > > > On Sep 15, 9:41 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I believe banning is a serious matter.
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> > > > > > > I really have not kept track of what Allan has said or done. In the
> > > > > > > event, I feel there should be a separate thread titled : Why
> > > > so-and-so
> > > > > > > deserves to be banned, by the Group rules !
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> > > > > > > The person can then be clearly charged, allowed to respond, and a
> > > > call
> > > > > > > taken by the Moderator in full public view. Shouldn't be difficult.
> > > > > > > After all you wouldn't be doing it every month.
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> > > > > > > On Sep 15, 8:24 pm, ornamentalmind <ornsmindseyes...@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Vam, I deleted the offending posts. Allan himself knew he had gone
> > > > > > > > over the line and said so in one of his remaining posts. He
> > > > followed
> > > > > > > > that one with more unprovoked direct attacks (self
> > > > admitted/defined)
> > > > > > > > upon me. He knew what he was doing and what the result would be.
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> > > > > > > > Evolution, freedom, acceptance and toleration include self
> > > > > > > > responsibility.
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> > > > > > > > On Sep 14, 10:33 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > If true, as Allan himself informs me, the act seems
> > > > disproportionate,
> > > > > > > > > a result of disbalanced mental process, and plain gross, as in
> > > > > > > > > absolute unfit for a Group comprising of such evolved members who
> > > > > > > > > believe in freedom, acceptance and toleration.
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> > > > > > > > > I sure would like to hear the Moderator speak on this matter.-
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> > > --
> > > Francis Hunt
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> > > *francishunt.blogspot.com*
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