> LOL predestination is just away to avoid taking responsibility for you
> action.. believe it if you want but it is wise to be prepared to be wrong, I
> hope I am.
> Allan
>
"Free will is not compatible with a space-time continuum." A quote by
Einstein. Since Special Relativity has been empirically proven by
time dilation repeatedly, predestination IS the proven truth. How can
an omnipotent God give us humans--or any thinking thing--any power
(like the power to choose) and remain omnipotent? It can't!
Therefore, it doesn't. Take your own advice, my friend, and feel free
to prepare yourself to be wrong. ;-)
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> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I like the theme RP - but what of being 'bound' by genetics/evolution/
> > environment - which gives some clues on how to escape through
> > knowledge?
>
> > On Oct 13, 4:30 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It is God who binds you and not you yourself , and so you are
> > > accountable to yourself and society , but not to God. In this world
> > > you are doing everything freely , but in God's presence you are just a
> > > puppet. If I am bound to err , it doesn't absolve me of the action as
> > > it has been done by me , and if you hurt me , again you are
> > > accountable for it as it is done by you. It is only in God's presence
> > > that you are innocent as you are a puppet in his hand , but in man's
> > > world you are accountable and responsible for every action unless
> > > society frees you of that responsibility on the grounds of insanity on
> > > your part. You are always the agent and as such always responsible for
> > > your every action and inaction.
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> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > When everything is predetermined... and if we all accept that as
> > > > fact... accountability is without meaning !
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> > > > Accountability has a meaning when I have a choice in the matter, and
> > > > if I am aware of that personal freedom.
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> > > > On Oct 13, 7:46 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> When everything is predetermined , the obvious truth that it is man
> > > >> who is acting , makes man accountable to man and society and not to
> > > >> God.
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> > > >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > But I couldn't see the rational thread between the "God alone..."
> > > >> > premise and its "Man alone..." derivative !
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> > > >> > On Oct 13, 7:20 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> I rather like the idea RP, of the corollary.
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> > > >> >> On Oct 13, 3:02 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > >> >> > AS everything good and evil is done by God's dictates and
> > everything
> > > >> >> > that a man endures is from God's pleasure , the corollary follows
> > --
> > > >> >> > whatever a man does , he is free to do and accountable to man and
> > > >> >> > society.
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> |_D Allan
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