It is an interesting concept,, but I do not think Any Rand could not see the in inherent faults within her system.. but it sounded good,, It seems I read them years ago,, but I in truth remember little to nothing,,
Angry prophet wow what a term ... Do you see me as that?? I know I am pretty put out with greed and corruption in politics so it is good to see the occupy movement I am praying for change ,, just what that will be I am not sure,, but I am quite sure is will not be the Any Rand model.. all though some of the concepts might me used.. any time there is power there will be someone who wants to abuse and control it for his own desires and benefit. As for the computer balancing society,, well it also creates ease in transferring and promoting child pornography.. (to me a sever sickness)
there is a prayer that I have learned to use over the years it goes:
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, The courage to change the things I can, The wisdom to know the difference and the ability to endure the frustration.
Oddly I do not see a perfect world,, mainly because of choice and circumstances. a lot of which is cause and effect. Much of which I really have no idea some of which an inkling,,
Could be this live is an temporary interuption in another one say the reaching of a cross road in which a person decides which path they want to take.. if you chose the path of property and wealth, what happens when it is not of value and does not exist in the realm you will be in.. the path,, I really dot know but intuition tells me it is not really a good choice..
If you are an Islamic bomber killing because Allah commands you to do it.. well I can not see any reason why Allah would need any one to defend him.. or this honor thing one confusing mess created by men to control other people..
Christianity is not any better so if you have stuck your nose in the air ,, you are in danger of drowning..
As I see it many people are only semi right ,, including me..
Allan
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:08 AM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6EBpLfLHCA&feature=related
Allan - you can get the videos in 15 min clips from 'Angry
Prophet' (any relation?) above. It's easy enough once you find the
first one.
> > > > > > > Brits who know much of our...
On Oct 30, 11:38 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We can go along with Camus - Life is no one single, simple thing, but
> a series of tensions and dilemmas. The most seemingly straightforward
> features of life are in fact ambiguous and even contradictory. Camus
> recommends that we avoid trying to resolve them. We need to face the
> fact that we can never successfully purge ourselves of the impulses
> that t
hreaten to wreak havoc with our lives. Camus's philosophy, if it
> has a single message, is that we should learn to tolerate, indeed
> embrace the frustration and ambivalence that humans cannot escape.
>
> On Oct 30, 7:12 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > They rely on the 'machine'for both social and personal legitimacy Vam.
> > It's a combination of fatalism, rationalisation,narcissism and
> > projection, all within a paranoid-schizoid position. Whilst this
> > explanation holds it has to be amenable to Gabby's 'pin' when
> > pompous. There is, of course, no reason for a small group to
> > 'compete' for riches whilst most live in poverty. And equally, I'm
> > not sure that reasonably fair material basics will help many people
> > achieve much real satisfaction - but it would help me not feel so bad
> > about myself. Way beyond this we have to think on and change the
> > nature of work - in its current form it's too often demeaning and we
> > don't take enough of our fair shares in a lot of it.
> > I have, at least to some extent, 'done my bit' - but the turn of this
> > to looking down on others as 'scroungers' and the rest I find
> > sickening. I spent my summers as a kid picking potatoes,beans, peat-
> > digging and so on with plenty of time to play cricket, tennis and the
> > rest. Our current generation has no such opportunity, and we can say
> > the same about more permanent jobs. Kids around the world often have
> > no such childhood at all. We could at least organise from this up.
> > Instead we cast fantasies about what are laughable qualifications (in
> > our terms Vam) being essential for 'interesting jobs'.
>
> > On Oct 30, 6:18 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters
> > > compared to what lies within us."
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> > > Ralph Waldo Emerson
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> > > Without which realisation... we'd just alternate
> > > between hope and despair, in desperation !
>
> > > On Oct 30, 4:55 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Even God cannot change the past." Agathon (448 B.C.-400 B.C.)
>
> > > > We are eventually free to establish our own values and lifestyle- if
> > > > we are lucky- and it sounds as if you are one of the lucky ones as we
> > > > type on computers constructed via slave labor to communicate our
> > > > opinions and struggles.
>
> > > > Around the beginning of the 20th Century, manufacturers accepted the
> > > > idea of making products that would soon be obsolete and need to be
> > > > replaced rather than repaired which has resulted in a toss-away
> > > > consumer society that is drenched in wastefulness. I think the idea
> > > > was first promoted by advertisers who were eager for steady income.
> > > > Replacement has become a broader fact- from mates to warfare.
>
> > > > On Oct 29, 11:01 pm, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I don't recall the exact quote from Camus, Neil, in his "Rebel"...
>
> > > > > We are living in times when the same usurpers, oligarchs, power
> > > > > brokers, Free Capitalists and State Capitalists... use values that
> > > > > appeal to people, take positions that make people feel good, espouse
> > > > > causes and show generosities... when all that is on their mind is how
> > > > > to extract more from the people, how to make laws more capital,
> > > > > priviledged and owner friendly ( yeah, the fkg Motor Act in India is
> > > > > still of colonial vantage, when the motors on the roads were owned
> > > > > mainly by the British... you don't need to commit any murders at all,
> > > > > just mow them on the road, and escape with at most as light a sentence
> > > > > as mere 2 years of simple imprisonment ! ), how to consolidate and
> > > > > cartelise the supply chain or distribution structures for essential
> > > > > commodities, so as to create scarcities and raise prices at will...
> > > > > control power... control money... control legislation... control
> > > > > supply and demand... control...
>
> > > > > As a result, people have come to believe that the 80% of the economy
> > > > > looped in to serve 20% of the population is alright, that millionaires
> > > > > constituting 50% of People's Representatives is alright, that there is
> > > > > something sacrosanct about property and shall-do-as-I-wish rights,
> > > > > that accepting money means that people have to surrender their freedom
> > > > > and needless dignity, that basketfuls of cake and food reject in waste
> > > > > bin from wealthy mansions is okay when thousands are hungry... and if
> > > > > you stand to question and protest over such gross social inequality,
> > > > > such political misrepresentation, such blatant economic inequity...
> > > > > you are actually shown the law, the law and order enforcement might,
> > > > > the feudal norms and ethics, and told "look at the others, how they
> > > > > are not about creating problems" !
>
> > > > > You then have only one option... which you will soon be advised even
> > > > > by your parents and well-wishers... to join them. After all, even you
> > > > > have it all... if you study and work hard, with dedication... et al.
>
> > > > > The fun starts, rather the mayhem, when you see no reason to join
> > > > > them, to have all that "they" have. At that stage you have already
> > > > > discovered the new paradigm for yourself. It happened with me in
> > > > > 1997... when I looked up to my boss' position and clearly saw that I
> > > > > didn't want it ! Lived hand to mouth for about 2 years... made demands
> > > > > on friends without a qualm... until the consulting work got
> > > > > acknowledged... and then I've practically retired for an otherwise
> > > > > very active life.
>
> > > > > On Oct 30, 4:32 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Sorry your video is currently not available.. will try later I did some
> > > > > > looking up to understand the raping of Nang I have actually known about for
> > > > > > a long time ,, seems even before the internet why I don't recall any more..
> > > > > > Maybe it is from the horrible abuse and treatment of the american Indian
> > > > > > by my own government. and other minorities..
>
> > > > > > I think people want to believe the soft sell packaged lies.. people
> > > > > > apparently prefer to live in fear and accept lies rather than face the
> > > > > > truth.. as for governments that color truth worse is it the USA or
> > > > > > Great Britain? Both Countries seem to bury their heads in the sand when it
> > > > > > comes to coloring their history. still am trying to figure out
> > > > > > the British empire.
>
> > > > > > Hopefully the Occupy Movement will have some effect positive I hope if the
> > > > > > one percent want to control the wealth and government they at least to
> > > > > > bear their fair share of the expenses based on percentage of ownership.
> > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 7:51 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The current crisis is not one of banking or economics, but something
> > > > > > > much more basic. One might say this is our attitude towards 'machines
> > > > > > > of loving grace'. In short, we live in the fantasy that "the machine"
> > > > > > > will put things right, returning to an equilibrium as our
> > > > > > > interventions are little more than 'of mice and men'. The real world
> > > > > > > of the environment and the exchange world of economics return to
> > > > > > > equilibrium after fluctuations. It's very tempting to believe this -
> > > > > > > one might see Gaia as a case in point - the planet and other species
> > > > > > > flourishing after we've crazed ourselves to extinction through
> > > > > > > consumption and wars.
>
> > > > > > > You can pick up the ideas of 'all watched over by machines of loving
> > > > > > > grace' here -
> > > > > > >http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/2160186460/All-Watched-Over-By-M...
>
> > > > > > > A review with an economic twist can be found here -
> > > > > > >http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/the-natural-chaos-of-markets.html
>
> > > > > > > My own work has often focused on the difference between espoused
> > > > > > > theories and theories-in-action. In some subjects like chemistry the
> > > > > > > relationship between theory and practice is good - if you follow the
> > > > > > > rules and recipes you get what you intended and the explanations make
> > > > > > > sense if you study enough. There is a working core, you can trust or
> > > > > > > check the work of others and speculation can eventually be tested on
> > > > > > > what is not accepted as 'settled'. In the human sciences this is much
> > > > > > > more difficult, not least because we do not exclude much in human
> > > > > > > society that prevents science. Few of us have much aptitude for
> > > > > > > science, perhaps especially for its negation of ideology soaked up
> > > > > > > from community.
>
> > > > > > > I always noted as a teacher that I was more comfortable saying 'you
> > > > > > > just can't handle the maths' (unlikely for me as I'd teach people like
> > > > > > > that without the stuff), than in saying 'you just don't get argument
> > > > > > > because you can't let go of any prejudice'. Teaching people to think
> > > > > > > for themselves contains a paradox. One finds much one is expected to
> > > > > > > teach based on dross. I know of no country in which history is taught
> > > > > > > without gross ideological distortion. We hear the Japanese rip out
> > > > > > > pages in textbooks on the 'rape of Nanking' yet it's rare to find
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