wouldn't use them.
On Dec 23, 1:22 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This will take abit to digest..
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> thanks VamI really do appreciate the briefness
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> On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'll try in brief...
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> > (1) What are people ? A person ?
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> > ... it is a SYSTEM of 5 - layer or sheath,
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> > with a dimension or axis that is obviously dipped
> > in MATTER, at one end, and the SELF, at the other.
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> > (2) The 5 sheaths are :
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> > | - FOOD or Gross Matter, flesh and bones et al
> > |
> > A| >> Blood and Breath bridge
> > | the FOOD & VITAL sheaths
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> > | - VITAL or Subtle Matter, air ( 5 kinds )
> > | that energise and move the gross body matter
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> > | - LOWER MIND, Instrument of ( sub - ) consciousness,
> > | where emotions and will surge,
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> > B| >>>> Waking State Mind, bridges
> > | the LOWER MIND & INTELLECT
> > | where thoughts and ideas flow, are distilled &
> > | knowledge of facts and understanding reside
> > |
> > | - INTELLECT, the Instrument of ( super - ) consciousness,
> > | where comprehensive knowledge abides
> > | with which the Witness Consciousness is identified
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> > C| - BLISS, of which the Ego (Waking State) in the mind,
> > | which covers the SOUL... the Overlord to Ego
> > | Soul... which is also Overlord of all other sheaths 24/7
> > | Soul... which is the Witness, over entire lifetime
> > | Soul... which the Ego does not know, but can merge with.
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> > Ego + Vital = Spirit ... that has the energy and the will.
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> > SOUL identified with the VITAL = SPIRIT, comprehensive.
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> > The SELF is the soul of the SOUL, soul of the Universe !
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> > On Dec 23, 12:39 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Vam could you expand for me how you see people having spirit and soul?
> > > Allan
> > > On Dec 22, 2011 2:24 PM, "Vam" <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Pat's posts contrast very aptly
> > > > with those by Neil, Gabby !
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> > > > Seems Neil has gone in a shell...
> > > > but I should underscore...
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> > > > that, I have immense respect
> > > > and regard for Neil, the person.
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> > > > that, Neil has very close and varied
> > > > experiences with life on the ground
> > > > and has great critical insights
> > > > into workings of the world about us.
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> > > > that, he has a dream
> > > > on behalf of all of us
> > > > - of simplicity, fairness,
> > > > beauty and happiness...
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> > > > but he keeps talking of science
> > > > and missing the fact that it is...
> > > > the people who are making it
> > > > or breaking it all the time !
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> > > > Now talking about people is not easy...
> > > > for we have to talk about ourselves -
> > > > the subjective - with the same objectivity
> > > > that is easily applied
> > > > on matters of science
> > > > but not on people... coz they have
> > > > content that cannot be counted,
> > > > weight that cannot be measured,
> > > > power that is not consistent,
> > > > and processes that are invisible.
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> > > > People have spirit and a soul,
> > > > emotions and will,
> > > > thoughts and ideas,
> > > > notions and knowledge,
> > > > and a being that is a trillion diverse,
> > > > now evident on the social media.
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> > > > It's that content we need to address,
> > > > even as it is on a trajectory coming
> > > > form the old, ancient past, with its
> > > > religions, traditions and beliefs ---
> > > > pervading the present modernity,
> > > > society, politics, economics and
> > > > governance that we are seized with
> > > > ... ... ...
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> > > > We can dismiss these but not w/out
> > > > putting our dreams for future
> > > > in peril.
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> > > > On Dec 22, 2:45 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Pat's book is (hopefully) out today!!! See:
> > > >http://newlimepublishing.com/new_lime_publishing_005.
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> > > > > It should meet your demands, Vam! Read:
> > > >http://newlimepublishing.com/linked/science%20preview.pdf
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> > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Neil, in all that I have read of your thoughts and views, grand
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> > > > > > and action plans... they seem just an overreach each time, as if
> > you
> > > > > > already know of its futility but can't give up, not because you
> > > > > > actually believe in any of the shite but because they are
> > meaningless
> > > > > > enough to stand out !
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> > > > > > Having said that... if you can disagree with something, clearly and
> > > > > > articulately, and forcefully, I'd read it.
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> > > > > > And, too, if you can wrench yourself away from obtaining delight
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> > > > > > achieving everything in mere wishing and thinking, and rambling on
> > > > > > without being substantive.
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> > > > > > Have you wondered why much of your posts end up being just so many
> > > > > > information sheets on the notice board ? Rarely have you taken up
> > the
> > > > > > challenge of going deep and real, becoming clear, and stating
> > simply.
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> > > > > > So... (1) What is that one thing you disagree with ? And,
> > > > > > (2) What is the one thing you would like us to appreciate
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> > > > > > agree with ?
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> |_D Allan
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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