Re: Mind's Eye life-forms

Yes Allan, organised religion sucks.

On Jan 5, 8:43 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> II real am glad you are here   ,, we always need a little bit of
> islam wisdom inserted. It is good to know that one is not alone in ones
> thinking ,,  I will have to look further into sufi beliefs..
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> I do think that the beliefs that a person is born into is the foundation of
> your spiritual life it is up to the individual soul to expand and grow into
> their own unique spirituality, As i am writing this I am visualizing wealth
> as a form of spirituality..  the major problem with this form of
> spirituality is that physical comforts that are so much part
> of wealth spirituality do not part of the normal spiritual world.
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> The problem with most mainstream religions  is the fact that they are
> unable to evolve and all spirituality must evolve.  There is a refusal by
> all church leadership to change even when that they are teaching is
> incorrect and they know it is incorrect.
>
> LOL  maybe there will be a  spiritual variance known as the 'Zombies'  (",)
> --- NNOTICE ----  I am not promoting another religion or belief system
>  there are far to many groups of idiots running around already.
> Allan
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Eman <emana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think on some level, we have the same views. The sufis say that ' people
> > are in a dream state and when they die, they will wake up'. That view seems
> > to be in line with your doubts about 'the reality' of human existence but
> > at the end of the day, one needs to achieve a balance between the physical
> > which is the realm of free will and struggle to achieve goals, and the
> > spiritual which keeps the physical beast on check and allows for deeper
> > yearnings and aspirations to also be fulfilled. As for the origin of the
> > soul, according to Islam, some will say that it is a bit of the Divine and
> > it will eventually return to its origin after death, whereas the 'self' or
> > the aspect of personal existence responsible for making choices is the part
> > of the human that will be subject to questioning, punishments and rewards.
> > Others will not make that distinction.
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> > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> Eman,,  the thought track was just looking at an idea, looking at
> >> nothing..
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> >> This group has got me looking at differently than I used to  but one of
> >> the ideas that has evolved is maybe just the opposite..
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> >> On looking at the concept of being reborn ...  I do believe there is a
> >> spiritual world  and I can  not help but wonder if our real "normal " Life
> >> a realm that we actually spend most of eternity in is the spiritual realm..
> >>   Both Islam and christianity  place great emphasis on life after death or
> >> re;birth.
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> >> There are a great deal of things that never made sense to me,,  and
> >> questions like what is the origin of the soul  maybe it is no longer the
> >> origin  but rather where was the soul before this life  .. . .   This
> >> leaves me wondering if our soul being part of an on going spiritual life is
> >> not our true Life and  this (world) physical life is  a  lifer where we are
> >> trying to demonstrate our knowledge of the laws of the universe  and how to
> >> apply them.
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> >> Then when we die (return to our spiritual life) we examine our physical
> >> lives and give account of our actions..  (all of them) memories)
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> >> As I look at this idea it would almost seem we are in a zombie state
> >> compared to the spiritual life we normally in.  I think i jacked my jaws
> >> about this a while back it is churning around in what little brain I have
> >> left,
> >> Allan
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> >> Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> Thank you Allan for your welcome. When it comes to hard evidence, you're
> >>> right, everything exists only in our heads and it could all be an illusion
> >>> or a virtual reality of some sort but we've come to accept what we sense as
> >>> a reality existing outside of us. I wonder how we made that leap or whether
> >>> we're programmed to be trusting of our senses to that exent since basing
> >>> our actions on the senses  leads to gratification or escaping pain.
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> >>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:36 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>> Welcome Eman I hope I have the name right,
>
> >>>> I am tending to agree with you, there are to many incidents and wide
> >>>> spread similarities.
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> >>>> But as I am writing this that maybe I (we)  are all including this
> >>>> world are a figment of RP's very furtile brain and when he dies and this
> >>>> very creativeness ceases to exist the total universe would cease to exist
> >>>> ---- now on the bright side if this is true all of the poverty,  hunger,
> >>>> will be gone. All the killing going on in the name of power will end..
>
> >>>> Hmmm
> >>>> Beyond  my comprehension or imagitive ability,  but if it is true, I as
> >>>> part of your collective imagination demand you put an end to it now!!!!
> >>>> Imaginary Allan
> >>>> Or is that worst nightmare Allan,  are you having difficulty deciding
> >>>> go to tore local hospital and purchase that excessively  costlt treatment,
> >>>> doesn't matter as everything  ceases to exist
> >>>> Then again
> >>>> Allan
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> >>>> (What do you expect a 5 in the morning with a storm raging (now cut out
> >>>> this storm si I can go to sleep,,--- whoever you are)
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> >> --
> >>  (
> >>   )
> >> |_D Allan
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> >>  Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> --
>  (
>   )
> |_D Allan
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