Allan
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree RP - religion can be very comforting in adversity. I don't
agree with Allan on what you put forward in this thread - I take this
to be about misconception of your stance in others. I would rather
share honest enquiry in fellowship, but there is little of this.
On Jan 23, 11:40 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That RP is the exact oppiste of what you were saying earlier. In your very
> opening statement last line I believe u said specificly you were an
> atheist. I do believe that statement to be true.
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> I just don't believe what ever you say, there seems to be no clear
> position.. so I am assuming your original statement is the corrt one.
> Allan
> On Jan 23, 2012 8:40 AM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Some God concepts give us the moral courage to continue on bravely in
> > dire circumstances .Also, we are better able to tolerate vile behavior
> > directed at us.
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> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > If we are lucky we don't need god concepts to comfort us or excuse
> > > vile behaviour.
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> > > On Jan 22, 6:29 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> As an aspect I find RP's view on god respectable, and find it
> > >> powerful, but where it has little power there are other aspects. Is
> > >> this not an important part of the dynamic multidimensional mind Vam,
> > >> can you find nothing of value with meeting this view at least as a
> > >> challenge? I am curious how you would assimilate it, inquiring minds
> > >> would be grateful as it is a bit jarring of a concept.
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> > >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > What you wrote, RP, was ridiculous. It you I found to be funny.
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> > >> > I don't see why God's choices have to be of a kind and scale that
> > >> > preoccupies you.
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> > >> > You would be hard put at defining, or drawing up a portrait of, the
> > >> > God you speak of with such aplomb ! And then you presume to know of
> > >> > his choices !! Or, worse, his choicelessness !!!
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> > >> > On Jan 21, 1:04 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> A man jumps from a plane without a parachute and when he reaches a
> > >> >> great velocity God exercises His choice and drastically slows his
> > >> >> fall. Funny Vam , isn't it ? Again God exercises His choice and
> > >> >> cancels all His laws and there is mayhem ! Or better still , at times
> > >> >> there are laws and at times there are none. God keeps on exercising
> > >> >> His choice and man keeps on playing the fool , he doesn't get wet in
> > >> >> the pool and doesn't get burned in the fire. Imagine a world without
> > >> >> God's laws , a world in which He keeps on exercising His choice.
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> > >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> > A choiceless God is shite...
> > >> >> > So there goes all such pontification !
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> > >> >> > #DeepakMRanade's article "Uncovering Relative Truths"
> > >> >> > in @timesofindia neatly summarises the approach to Advaita,
> > >> >> > its conceptual layout. You are invited to discover the answers.
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> >http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=...
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> > >> >> > On Jan 19, 10:21 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> Interesting RP. I'm atheist only in that I reject stories that
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> > >> >> >> full of holes, talking snakes and such. The Gnostics have it that
> > >> >> >> creation was a mistake - though I have no means to determine any
> > truth
> > >> >> >> in this I am struck most argument can be undercut like this. I
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> > >> >> >> wonder what might explain why we don't just know what life is
> > about
> > >> >> >> and how this might be explained.
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> > >> >> >> On Jan 19, 10:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > >> >> >> > I as a human have the choice , even if it is apparent and not
> > real ,
> > >> >> >> > to do this or do that , that is, there is an element of
> > uncertainty in
> > >> >> >> > my actions , but God has a steadfastness of purpose. God's will
> > is
> > >> >> >> > sure and certain , the whole space-time continuum emanates from
> > Him
> > >> >> >> > without any active choice on His part which raises the question
> > of
> > >> >> >> > responsibility. God cannot be held responsible for any event as
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> > >> >> >> > happens without any wavering on His part , He has no choice and
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> > >> >> >> > cannot be held responsible. This brings us to the question of
> > >> >> >> > worship , why worship a Being who has a fixed purpose ? In that
> > case ,
> > >> >> >> > even though believing in a supreme Being and determinism , I
> > can be
> > >> >> >> > called an atheist.
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|_D Allan
Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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