Re: Mind's Eye Re: I , an atheist

Thank you , old man !

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are right  RP is a confused child  and for me not worth the effort.
> Allan
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> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I agree RP - religion can be very comforting in adversity.  I don't
>> agree with Allan on what you put forward in this thread - I take this
>> to be about misconception of your stance in others.  I would rather
>> share honest enquiry in fellowship, but there is little of this.
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>> On Jan 23, 11:40 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > That RP is the exact oppiste of what you were saying earlier.  In your
>> > very
>> > opening statement  last line I believe u said specificly you were an
>> > atheist.  I do believe that statement  to be true.
>> >
>> > I just don't  believe what ever you say, there seems to be no clear
>> > position..  so I am assuming your original statement  is the corrt one.
>> > Allan
>> >  On Jan 23, 2012 8:40 AM, "RP Singh" <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > Some God concepts give us the moral courage to continue on bravely in
>> > > dire circumstances .Also, we are better able to tolerate vile behavior
>> > > directed at us.
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>> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > If we are lucky we don't need god concepts to comfort us or excuse
>> > > > vile behaviour.
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>> > > > On Jan 22, 6:29 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> As an aspect I find RP's view on god respectable, and find it
>> > > >> powerful, but where it has little power there are other aspects. Is
>> > > >> this not an important part of the dynamic multidimensional mind
>> > > >> Vam,
>> > > >> can you find nothing of value with meeting this view at least as a
>> > > >> challenge? I am curious how you would assimilate it, inquiring
>> > > >> minds
>> > > >> would be grateful as it is a bit jarring of a concept.
>> >
>> > > >> On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > What you wrote, RP, was ridiculous. It you I found to be funny.
>> >
>> > > >> > I don't see why God's choices have to be of a kind and scale that
>> > > >> > preoccupies you.
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>> > > >> > You would be hard put at defining, or drawing up a portrait of,
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > God you speak of with such aplomb ! And then you presume to know
>> > > >> > of
>> > > >> > his choices !! Or, worse, his choicelessness !!!
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>> > > >> > On Jan 21, 1:04 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> A man jumps from a plane without a parachute and when he reaches
>> > > >> >> a
>> > > >> >> great velocity God exercises His choice and drastically slows
>> > > >> >> his
>> > > >> >> fall. Funny Vam , isn't it ? Again God exercises His choice and
>> > > >> >> cancels all His laws and there is mayhem ! Or better still , at
>> > > >> >> times
>> > > >> >> there are laws and at times  there are none. God keeps on
>> > > >> >> exercising
>> > > >> >> His choice and man keeps on playing the fool , he doesn't get
>> > > >> >> wet in
>> > > >> >> the pool and doesn't get burned in the fire. Imagine a world
>> > > >> >> without
>> > > >> >> God's laws , a world in which He keeps on exercising His choice.
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>> > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > A choiceless God is shite...
>> > > >> >> > So there goes all such pontification !
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>> > > >> >> > #DeepakMRanade's article "Uncovering Relative Truths"
>> > > >> >> > in @timesofindia neatly summarises the approach to Advaita,
>> > > >> >> > its conceptual layout. You are invited to discover the
>> > > >> >> > answers.
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>> > > >http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=...
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>> > > >> >> > On Jan 19, 10:21 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> >> Interesting RP.  I'm atheist only in that I reject stories
>> > > >> >> >> that
>> > > are
>> > > >> >> >> full of holes, talking snakes and such.  The Gnostics have it
>> > > >> >> >> that
>> > > >> >> >> creation was a mistake - though I have no means to determine
>> > > >> >> >> any
>> > > truth
>> > > >> >> >> in this I am struck most argument can be undercut like this.
>> > > >> >> >>  I
>> > > often
>> > > >> >> >> wonder what might explain why we don't just know what life is
>> > > about
>> > > >> >> >> and how this might be explained.
>> >
>> > > >> >> >> On Jan 19, 10:59 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > > >> >> >> > I as a human have the choice , even if it is apparent and
>> > > >> >> >> > not
>> > > real ,
>> > > >> >> >> > to do this or do that , that is, there is an element of
>> > > uncertainty in
>> > > >> >> >> > my actions , but God has a steadfastness of purpose. God's
>> > > >> >> >> > will
>> > > is
>> > > >> >> >> > sure and certain , the whole space-time continuum emanates
>> > > >> >> >> > from
>> > > Him
>> > > >> >> >> > without any active choice on His part which raises the
>> > > >> >> >> > question
>> > > of
>> > > >> >> >> > responsibility. God cannot be held responsible for any
>> > > >> >> >> > event as
>> > > it
>> > > >> >> >> > happens without any wavering on His part , He has no choice
>> > > >> >> >> > and
>> > > hence
>> > > >> >> >> > cannot be held responsible. This brings us to the question
>> > > >> >> >> > of
>> > > >> >> >> > worship , why worship a Being who has a fixed purpose ? In
>> > > >> >> >> > that
>> > > case ,
>> > > >> >> >> > even though believing in a supreme Being and determinism ,
>> > > >> >> >> > I
>> > > can be
>> > > >> >> >> > called an atheist.
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> |_D Allan
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