to prevent iniquity I know most people don't reason at all well. I
see no signs of this trap being sprung.
On Jan 26, 5:24 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vam , God is not irrelevant as it is the general trend, nowadays ,to
> try to realize God , Self if you like. You yourself were talking of
> infinite bliss , whether it is realization of Self or God is the same
> thing to me.
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> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Seems good to me, RP...
> > except that this matter about God might be irrelevant.
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> > The moral code is the core but for ourself.
> > It is the ethics code that is for others,
> > but it needs the moral code for its foundation.
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> > On Jan 26, 9:57 pm, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> It is not the God within which we have to search - He is there O.K. ,
> >> has always been and will always be. We have to look outside at the
> >> multitude , and evolve a moral code for the benefit of individuals
> >> and humanity as a whole.
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> >> On Jan 25, 8:26 am, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > "Is this not an important part of the dynamic multidimensional mind
> >> > Vam, can you find nothing of value with meeting this view at least as
> >> > a challenge?"
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> >> > James, starting with God is a bad idea. Perhaps, ending up at it is
> >> > what needs to happen. Dawkins was in Jaipur here and I found his view
> >> > a lot more balanced, less bigoted and militant.
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> >> > And Neil is right : it must deal with morality. Where his discourse
> >> > runs dry is when he is quoting other people ! That is also my
> >> > compelling logic against intellectual property rights. What damned
> >> > "rights" on knowledge of any kind ? Or, why must we have to give
> >> > references, when all we wish to say is ours, with us ? If it's not
> >> > ours, for us to say, we should STFU !
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> >> > The formal aspect of Truth or truths is onerous. There are libraries
> >> > out there where it goes dry. It is the informal one that I wish to put
> >> > across : it is mine... and for that reason should be everyone's, of
> >> > everything. And that ( informal aspect ) is... HOME. The search for
> >> > that place which is truly ours, where we can rest without fear, free
> >> > and fulfilled, which nothing in the whole universe can take away from
> >> > us. Truth is our Home.
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> >> > This is no parable I've begun. People are spent for and on a " home "
> >> > for themselves. They build, buy, rent one for the body... house or
> >> > apartment, car or craft. But then the worst a-holes amongst us come to
> >> > believe that home they are so invested on is also the " home " to
> >> > their emotion, to their thought, their identity, and their happiness
> >> > too ! Well, it is and it definitely isn't.
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> >> > The better ( a-hols ) take on a wife, friend, progeny or pet,
> >> > community or cause, to engage their emotion-thought-identity where,
> >> > with whom or which, one then feels at home. Of that our thought is
> >> > preoccupied... that same ' faculty ' that had been used to focus on
> >> > money to buy the home, on the value of food and worth of delicacies,
> >> > on the relevance of what is beneficial and serves our purposes and
> >> > what does not.
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> >> > That pitch of ' acquisition,' value, worth, relevance... is also there
> >> > in our thought and eye, as in it pre-exists and is consciously or
> >> > subconsciously applied, for the home-objects of our emotion as well.
> >> > For a lifetime, we carry that pitch to manage, manipulate, decide and
> >> > deal with what is outside us to acquire the material home-object in
> >> > our aim ... a domain that, for all practical purposes, encompasses
> >> > everything. For everything, external and internal, is outside the
> >> > agency, the ego-person, we are through the pursuit after our aim.
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> >> > What is concurrent within, inside of us - the "ego-person," is a build
> >> > up and an intensification of VANITY... which expresses as : " I
> >> > possess;" " I win;" " I will acquire;" " I am successful." It is all a
> >> > matter of process that is normal to our drive and inevitable to our
> >> > search. But, as surely as sure can be, it is Vanity that also blocks
> >> > our evolution and progression into the true Home to our emotion -
> >> > which is Love, to our thought - which is Silence, to our identity -
> >> > which is Zero, and to our spirit - which is Bliss Infinite. Because it
> >> > limits us to what we have, even as it automatically makes us pore over
> >> > all that we does not have; and, it is limiting because while with it
> >> > we can never give up that " pitch " we have internalised along the
> >> > journey and can hence never view and see things with Love and Silence,
> >> > and be Zero with Bliss Infinite.
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> >> > These are the real aspects and issues to spirituality : Home and
> >> > Vanity. It is these that I find more pertinent than God or whatever.
> >> > It is these that will make us be better and excel, that will address
> >> > the monstrous twists with which people reduce the best of systems and
> >> > opportunities to gutter, that will redress the moral deficit in our
> >> > public and personal lives.
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