Re: Mind's Eye Re: Greece -- helping friends

What? You mean confiscate private property? Or just retire all debt past a certain amount? Economic defenestration. Total chaos. Anarchy in the streets. Hunker bunker time. Where goes the incentive to gain wealth if there's no expectation to keep it? As usual Rigs is singing my tune in a much more melodious manner then I can manage. 

dj

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:

I'd say this is similar to what I found on my visit to Piraeus -
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/02/austerity-policy-destroying-greek-society.html
- and the US is now issuing more debt than it takes in as taxes.
We can reorganise and should do this by taking down the rich and the
debt they 'own'.

On Feb 16, 11:08 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would it were so rigsy.  A fairly standard review of what's been

> happening in finance can be found here -http://www.cfainstitute.org/learning/products/publications/rf/Pages/r...

> - from the investment managers' professional body.  Many ordinary
> people who put the toil in, including Greeks working two jobs, are
> discovering what they thought their hard work has earned is worth
> nothing.  These are people who thought they were being self-
> sufficient.  I suspect we have been living off the backs of others too
> - but believe this current situation may be linked to the recognition
> the real work that needs doing is under-valued in the crazed libidinal
> economics.  People who put the work time in are finding themselves no
> better off than the shirkers and some of this is down to work having
> gone neurotic.
> What I saw in Greece was people I know as friends working two jobs and
> more not able to meet mortgage payments - just as in Eastern Europe in
> transition.  Here I find people who have just had private pension
> payments halved - in Greece this has hit the public sector and will
> here.  Obama is tapping US pension funds.  Austerity can work for a
> home - and I had some great times when broke - but it's bullshit
> ideology for the gullible as an economic answer.
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> On Feb 16, 1:51 pm, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > How do you know what my life has been? I learned a great deal during
> > lean times- in fact, I would say it was my most creative period. And I
> > disagree about the banks- although there are certainly some wolves in
> > life's woods. It's like saying a grocery store or restaurant is to
> > blame for obesity or digestive ills. Individuals and nations lived
> > beyond their means and disregarded contracts, etc. Since we have been
> > nursed on entitlements, many thought they would be bailed so now comes
> > the whining and tantrums.
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> > On Feb 15, 9:38 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > There is nothing left to tighten...  Put the same astiaity measures intact
> > > in your life rigsy... see how it feels..  The majority of these prolems are
> > > brought on by the banksters..
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> > > If Greece fails you will be effected also..
> > > On Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM, "rigsy03" <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > Stop destroying your cities, Greeks! Tighten your belts! Pay the
> > > > Piper!
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> > > > On Feb 15, 3:01 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I see the Banksters desperately trying  to destroy Greece..  I have Greek
> > > > > friends there and I am wondering about Ideas of how to help them once the
> > > > > Banksters manage to succeed on their mission.
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> > > > > Please add your thoughts as it is an up coming problem for me.
> > > > > Allan
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> > > > > |_D Allan
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> > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.- Hide quoted text -
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