Re: Mind's Eye Syria

It's really not our sphere of influence. We can't even handle Mexico.

On Apr 16, 7:36 pm, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Russia is fairly cozy with Syria's current leaders. Any
> > military intervention by a Western power would be seen as provocative by
> > Russia. Their presence on the security council blocks any official military
> > action from the UN. Veto power. We have seen what 'unilateral' intervention
> > by a Western country can do to it's world reputation. Your reference to
> > Iraq
>
> > Continued....
>
> and the USA's invasion and occupation doesn't mention WHY this was done nor
> what led up to it. It might interest you to know that human rights groups
> had been whining for YEARS about Saddam's abuses. The UN, left to it's own
> ineffectual devices, will do nothing.
>
> So, you ask why Western countries don't interfere. Look to Iraq and see
> your answer. If you ask why neighboring countries don't interfere it's
> because they expect the US or UN to to all the heavy lifting so they do
> nothing. Just like those countries surrounding Palestine that could help
> that country succeed and prosper by helping it rid itself of militant
> trouble makers like the PLO but instead enable them to greater mischief.
> They were very effective in raising money for so-called 'aid' that was used
> instead for terror purposes and to solidify their own power. It's a shame
> really. Israel could be a great neighbor if hate were put on the back
> burner and tolerance and respect given a chance.
>
> I am not holding my breath. BTW, Iran has it's stinky little fingers in all
> these Mid-East pies as well. I'm not being racist, dammit I'm calling the
> Government stinky, not the Iranian people. Them I like well enough and was
> frankly disappointed Obama did NOTHING after that bogus election and
> crack-down on dissenters that followed. Nary a peep about that do we hear
> do we?
>
> dj
>
>
>
> >  On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> The Egyptian military might not be so pleasant when they lose their
> >> shirts.
>
> >> Humans have been killing their brethren forever- it started with Cain
> >> and Abel. I wonder how long we can call the shots with an empty
> >> treasury.
>
> >> On Apr 16, 3:03 am, "pol.science kid" <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Now i cant help but think of the Military role in all this... if a
> >> > number of them defect... or if they refuse orders.. i am sure they
> >> > could neutralize the situation.. thats one thing the egyptians had..
> >> > support of the Army... i dont know how these people can stand shelling
> >> > civilians..its incomprehensible... Thsi calls for a new post all
> >> > together i suppose.. rise of the modern Army....
>
> >> > On Apr 12, 11:06 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > The middle east is a nightmare to say the least. looking over the
> >> migration
> >> > > of human population essentially the middle east is essentially the
> >> same
> >> > > segment of the human population, whether it is the second or third
> >> great
> >> > > migration is of little importance. BUT in my observation each
> >> migration has
> >> > > its own sense of morality all though there is common parts they are
> >> not the
> >> > > same view and definitely do not have a common morality.
>
> >> > > Every time  the west or 5th migration intervenes to aid in the
> >> affairs of
> >> > > the middle east it degenerates down to tribal factions,  If you
> >> intervene
> >> > >  you are condemned ..  and it seems the west only intervenes is
> >> either for
> >> > > oil or in the Case of the Bush-Iraq pure ego..  How would you suggest
> >> > > eliminating the made man?
> >> > > Allan
>
> >> > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM, pol.science kid <
> >> r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> > > > thats what i want to know gabbs, if you dont have power, what can
> >> you do?
> >> > > > But i understand a little perhaps what youre saying, this attitude
> >> that
> >> > > > promotes statuse quo , that those who do will always do.... thats
> >> why i
> >> > > > want the neighbor countries to take part in the intervention...
> >> well.. at
> >> > > > least we have a ceasefire now.. dont know where it'll go from
> >> there...
>
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >> I am sorry that I was replying to how you said it rather that what
> >> you
> >> > > >> said. In fact I was interested in just that, in how it works. - In
> >> order to
> >> > > >> escape the apathy of knowing it's always those with the economical
> >> and
> >> > > >> military power who do what they always do. - I did not succeed, I
> >> need to
> >> > > >> find another way to make peace with myself.
>
> >> > > >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:46 PM, pol.science kid <
> >> r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> > > >>> Ok... i thought i did... at one point.. but i dont get what youre
> >> > > >>> saying....sorry... although i must say i am in love with how you
> >> use
> >> > > >>> words....... anyways.. i am guessing you didnt like my style...
> >> youre
> >> > > >>> right.. i don blame you.. the end part does seem stupid...
> >> honesty can seem
> >> > > >>> dumb if not adjusted correctly... all i am trying to say is.. i
> >> am just
> >> > > >>> trying to figure out the attitude towards Syria.. of other
> >> nations.. and at
> >> > > >>> the same time... wondering of how things might end... or how
> >> prolonged the
> >> > > >>> conflict will be... and that it worries me if there is no
> >> intervention... i
> >> > > >>> also wanted to know what others thought about it....
>
> >> > > >>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>> Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Poly. Let me
> >> explain how
> >> > > >>>> your thoughts come across here on my side. The first thing that
> >> strikes me
> >> > > >>>> as strange is the politically correct formulation of feelings
> >> about an
> >> > > >>>> issue of human interest. I see citizens arguing for the health
> >> benefits of
> >> > > >>>> the salad in their bowl while expanding in size over their fried
> >> meat side
> >> > > >>>> from the fondue pot. Which then makes me stumble over your
> >> desire to share
> >> > > >>>> your concern with us guys. Why don't you just say what you want
> >> and let me
> >> > > >>>> pick my salad pieces in the order I like them best? Your share
> >> makes me
> >> > > >>>> think of an invitation to divide and impera on over-fertilized
> >> ground ...
> >> > > >>>> need to stop here ... need to go out now while it's not raining
> >> yet.
>
> >> > > >>>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:11 AM, pol.science kid <
> >> r.freeb...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> > > >>>>> Now i know plenty is being said about the situation in Syria..
> >> but i
> >> > > >>>>> am really bothered because it seems we're stuck in a loop....
> >> this is
> >> > > >>>>> reminding me of the time of American occupation in Iraq..
> >> whenever you
> >> > > >>>>> switched the news on there would report of some bombing or
> >> explosion
> >> > > >>>>> in Baghdad or elsewhere, likewise now... you switch on the news
> >> > > >>>>> anytime there will definitely be something on the shelling in
> >> Homs or
> >> > > >>>>> somewhere else.. what is disturbing is that though the images
> >> of gore
> >> > > >>>>> reach us pretty quickly .. there is minimal news on the efforts
> >> by any
> >> > > >>>>> big states , through the UN or otherwise.. its only the one
> >> percent
> >> > > >>>>> that gets to the world i suppose..i guess you cant really
> >> imagine the
> >> > > >>>>> real situation there.. now i am not commenting on the politics ,
> >> > > >>>>> because i feel you can seriously talk and talk.. all that
> >> should be
> >> > > >>>>> left for later... What i dont understand is that there is no
> >> active
> >> > > >>>>> intervention even by the neighboring countries.. surely they
> >> cant
> >> > > >>>>> support Assad.!. i get most of the countries are perhaps
> >> dealing with
> >> > > >>>>> their own.. but you cant help but sense some apathy towards the
> >> whole
> >> > > >>>>> thing.Also its understandable that one might be wary of
> >> supporting
> >> > > >>>>> rebels or any ideology, but it is clear now that the Syrian
> >> government
> >> > > >>>>> is bent on exterminating half of its population..there is no
> >> reason to
> >> > > >>>>> withhold active intervention.. and yes i mean a military
> >> one..It is
> >> > > >>>>> clear as daylight Assad is killing his own people....is the
> >> security
> >> > > >>>>> council just a fancy name or what   ..I dont know what the
> >> purpose of
> >> > > >>>>> this piece was.. And i feel it would be hypocritical to say
> >> much as i
> >> > > >>>>> have no idea of whats actually going on there.. but i am just
> >> > > >>>>> concerned and i am posting it here to share with you guys..cos
> >> well ..
> >> > > >>>>> thats what we do.. what do you think guys...
>
> >> > > >>> --
> >> > > >>> EverComing
>
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > EverComing
>
> >> > > --
> >> > >  (
> >> > >   )
> >> > > |_D Allan
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