Re: Mind's Eye Re: Are You A Human Being ?

That's due to the decline of standards in education- lack of
rhetoric,debate, grammar, etc. Even lawyers with some training turn
into con-artists when they enter politics, don't they?

On Aug 16, 8:46 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I didn't think it through that far. :) Virgins and bombers I
> certainly hope not! I meant to refer to the facts portion being mostly
> hooey, people seem to have quite a low standard IMO. Has anyone else
> noticed an rapid decline in argumentation over the past few years? Not
> here but in general day to day. Strange stuff...
>
> On 8/16/2012 2:36 AM, Allan H wrote:
>
>
>
> > Was reviewing the topic  and the life after death,,  it seems you have
> > printed a Islamic representation of virgins? rushing to the suicide bomber..
>
> > Actually I do not see it as a lot of difficulty with the topic if a
> > person views that the soul is a spiritual being. when the body dies the
> > soul simply returns to the spiritual realm there really is only one
> > question the soul will ask of itself "Did I live  life in a moral ,
> > ethical and truthful manner?".   The answer to that question comes out
> > in the famous "Karma" and your level within the Entirety.
>
> > The original definition for a politician in english was
> > 'professional liar',,  there are some that are working for the
> > betterment of man, but I am left wondering if 'parrot' is not a
> > good description of a lot of the politicians, government workers and for
> > that matter people..  as you watch the american election system,,  the
> > republicans will be reciting what their elitist party over lords tell
> > them to say.
>
> > I have trouble visualizing a realm where there is nothing to steal or
> > hoard or other spiritual beings to manipulate. the great mandela might
> > be a be starting point of the relationship we have with the Entirety.
> > Allan
>
> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:33 AM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:ashkas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     Do you find it advisable to speak your mind more often or to just
> >     smile while wading through the hooey? I find it a crap shoot, but
> >     any advice?
>
> >     On 8/15/2012 3:32 AM, gabbydott wrote:
>
> >         Actually, I like the phenomenal view too. Then I start breaking
> >         it down
> >         into accessible units. That's how I come up with my matters of
> >         fact. It
> >         always amazes me how others come up with their facts and how
> >         these facts
> >         fit into my factual pattern. The truth, if you wish.
>
> >         On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com
> >         <mailto:atewari2...@gmail.com>
> >         <mailto:atewari2...@gmail.com <mailto:atewari2...@gmail.com>>__>
> >         wrote:
>
> >              Couldn't disagree with a word of what you said. It's
> >         sickening how
> >              they parrot calls for "lasting peace" and cannot have a larger
> >              expanse than their family or own body ,,, than their daily
> >         dime or a
> >              lifetime !
>
> >              The promised morality and ethics of the rationalist,
> >         materialist,
> >              and that pitiable bundle of confusion called "relativist"
> >         is more a
> >              delusion or pious wish, in actual effect. Because morals
> >         cannot be
> >              derived from the phenomena; they are matters of fact
> >         evident to the
> >              universal and dilated witness... the truth.
>
> >              On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:40:27 PM UTC+5:30, Allan
> >         Heretic wrote:
>
> >                  Realistically Vam the Western world including Islamist have
> >                  fallen under the spell of christian fundamentalism and
> >         the "Have
> >                  you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior. That
> >         is all
> >                  that is needed to get into heaven.." under there dogma
> >         nothing
> >                  else is needed.. it seems all of the western beliefs
> >         have come
> >                  up with some form of excuse that allows one to have bad
> >         behavior
> >                    and still get into heaven..
>
> >                  No wonder why there are so many atheist and agnostics
> >         as That is
> >                  in reality a pretty hard piece of crap to buy.,
> >         especially to a
> >                  person that is thinking, not looking for an excuse
> >         behave badly.
> >                  passing the buck sort of speaking. Suicide bombers when
> >         they
> >                  stand in judgement of themselves are are going to feel
> >         the pain
> >                  of  taking their life and realize those they have killed is
> >                  murder against the rules..  or the extreme wealthy that are
> >                  causing people to suffer because of their greed..  what
> >         happens
> >                  when they find that their wealth has no value in the
> >         spiritual
> >                  world and they find their souls alone and empty.
>
> >                  In a way I hope I am wrong, as everyone is responsible
> >         to live
> >                  life in a moral, ethical and truthful manner. This is
> >         what is
> >                  required for the souls spiritual development and
> >         advancement.
> >                  Unfortunately many of the churches and spiritual
> >         leaders don't
> >                  realize and are more interested in their own promotion.
> >         It is
> >                  sad because the basic guideline is actually well know,,
> >           either
> >                  added to or distorted to fit the desire of those they are
> >                  dealing with..  I really do not know how to say that
> >         because it
> >                  really ends up jumping into peoples beliefs.
>
> >                  Everyone on their death finds their own spiritual level
> >         because
> >                  the becomes totally to the light..  hmm maybe that is
> >         where all
> >                  the ghost  you hear about   but people who just can not
> >         accept
> >                  or believe reality even in this world or is it they are
> >         trying
> >                  to create their own reality.
>
> >                  simply put there is no army of God (or what ever name
> >         you chose
> >                  to call him) and heaven is just what you create
> >                  by your behavior. it all boils down to the question
> >         have you
> >                  lived your life in a moral, ethical and truthful manner.
> >                  Allan
>
> >                  On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Vam
> >         <atewa...@gmail.com <mailto:atewa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >                      *Let me push through one "ridiculous" instance of
> >         what it is
> >                      to be human, of his capacity to know ...*
>
> >                      * Is there life after death ? � What will happen to
> >         me after
> >                      death ?�*
>
> >         <http://vamadevananda.__wordpress.com/2012/08/01/__journal-atharva-ved...
> >         <http://vamadevananda.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/journal-atharva-veda-pa...>>
>
> >                      *These questions seem irrelevant while one is alive and
>
> >                      doing well for oneself, in a position to power our way
> >                      through life and the world before us. But then, who
> >         is to
> >                      restrain us from being whimsical or cruel, unjust and
> >                      uncaring ? It must be ourselves, for the law allows
> >         much
> >                      transgression in ethics and rarely concerns itself with
> >                      morals. And, scouring through history or looking
> >         about us
> >                      for how resourceful people behave, it is easy to
> >         conclude
> >                      that men are poor, almost disabled, at doing the job of
> >                      keeping themselves under their own leash.*
>
> >                      *On the other hand, if it were established that
> >         there is
>
> >                      life after death, that we shall be put to account
> >         for our
> >                      actions in life, the knowledge would have a
> >         profound bearing
> >                      on how we conduct ourselves here and now.*
>
> >                      I believe most humans do not want to believe that
> >         this could
> >                      be a fact and, indeed, fervently hope they would
> >         NOT have to
> >                      live with the "moral" consequences of their intent
> >         and deeds
> >                      on their conscience even after they've breathed
> >         their last !
>
> >                      But we've heard of cries of truth being
> >         "outlandish" before !
>
> >                      On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:56:25 PM UTC+5:30, Allan
> >                      Heretic wrote:
>
> >                          we (docs and me) monitor it regularly,,  major
> >         problem
> >                            is a language one  ,,   we are not sure just
> >         what to
> >                          do.. i am sure it will all work out..  I have been
> >                          dealing with it for years Rigsy..  not worried
> >         besides
> >                          it is fun to drive doc nuts..
> >                          Allan
>
> >                          On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM, rigsy03
> >         <rig...@yahoo.com <mailto:rig...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> >                              Just take those meds religiously. Have you
> >         tried
> >                              doing things with
> >                              your left hand if you are right-handed?
> >         Even like
> >                              brushing your teeth
> >                              or unlocking a door, etc.- it builds new
> >         synapses.
> >                              You are in good
>
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