Re: Mind's Eye Re: Are You A Human Being ?

There are many situations where the truth is imperative but many
social situations call for diplomacy, tact, dishonesty or silence. Try
being honest all the time to everyone and let us know how it turns
out! :-)

On Aug 15, 8:33 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you find it advisable to speak your mind more often or to just smile
> while wading through the hooey? I find it a crap shoot, but any advice?
>
> On 8/15/2012 3:32 AM, gabbydott wrote:
>
>
>
> > Actually, I like the phenomenal view too. Then I start breaking it down
> > into accessible units. That's how I come up with my matters of fact. It
> > always amazes me how others come up with their facts and how these facts
> > fit into my factual pattern. The truth, if you wish.
>
> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:atewari2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     Couldn't disagree with a word of what you said. It's sickening how
> >     they parrot calls for "lasting peace" and cannot have a larger
> >     expanse than their family or own body ,,, than their daily dime or a
> >     lifetime !
>
> >     The promised morality and ethics of the rationalist, materialist,
> >     and that pitiable bundle of confusion called "relativist" is more a
> >     delusion or pious wish, in actual effect. Because morals cannot be
> >     derived from the phenomena; they are matters of fact evident to the
> >     universal and dilated witness... the truth.
>
> >     On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 4:40:27 PM UTC+5:30, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> >         Realistically Vam the Western world including Islamist have
> >         fallen under the spell of christian fundamentalism and the "Have
> >         you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior. That is all
> >         that is needed to get into heaven.." under there dogma nothing
> >         else is needed.. it seems all of the western beliefs have come
> >         up with some form of excuse that allows one to have bad behavior
> >           and still get into heaven..
>
> >         No wonder why there are so many atheist and agnostics as That is
> >         in reality a pretty hard piece of crap to buy., especially to a
> >         person that is thinking, not looking for an excuse behave badly.
> >         passing the buck sort of speaking. Suicide bombers when they
> >         stand in judgement of themselves are are going to feel the pain
> >         of  taking their life and realize those they have killed is
> >         murder against the rules..  or the extreme wealthy that are
> >         causing people to suffer because of their greed..  what happens
> >         when they find that their wealth has no value in the spiritual
> >         world and they find their souls alone and empty.
>
> >         In a way I hope I am wrong, as everyone is responsible to live
> >         life in a moral, ethical and truthful manner. This is what is
> >         required for the souls spiritual development and advancement.
> >         Unfortunately many of the churches and spiritual leaders don't
> >         realize and are more interested in their own promotion. It is
> >         sad because the basic guideline is actually well know,,  either
> >         added to or distorted to fit the desire of those they are
> >         dealing with..  I really do not know how to say that because it
> >         really ends up jumping into peoples beliefs.
>
> >         Everyone on their death finds their own spiritual level because
> >         the becomes totally to the light..  hmm maybe that is where all
> >         the ghost  you hear about   but people who just can not accept
> >         or believe reality even in this world or is it they are trying
> >         to create their own reality.
>
> >         simply put there is no army of God (or what ever name you chose
> >         to call him) and heaven is just what you create
> >         by your behavior. it all boils down to the question have you
> >         lived your life in a moral, ethical and truthful manner.
> >         Allan
>
> >         On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Vam <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >             *Let me push through one "ridiculous" instance of what it is
> >             to be human, of his capacity to know ...*
>
> >             * Is there life after death ? � What will happen to me after
> >             death ?�*
>
> >             <http://vamadevananda.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/journal-atharva-veda-pa...>
>
> >             *These questions seem irrelevant while one is alive and
> >             doing well for oneself, in a position to power our way
> >             through life and the world before us. But then, who is to
> >             restrain us from being whimsical or cruel, unjust and
> >             uncaring ? It must be ourselves, for the law allows much
> >             transgression in ethics and rarely concerns itself with
> >             morals. And, scouring through history or looking about us
> >             for how resourceful people behave, it is easy to conclude
> >             that men are poor, almost disabled, at doing the job of
> >             keeping themselves under their own leash.*
>
> >             *On the other hand, if it were established that there is
> >             life after death, that we shall be put to account for our
> >             actions in life, the knowledge would have a profound bearing
> >             on how we conduct ourselves here and now.*
>
> >             I believe most humans do not want to believe that this could
> >             be a fact and, indeed, fervently hope they would NOT have to
> >             live with the "moral" consequences of their intent and deeds
> >             on their conscience even after they've breathed their last !
>
> >             But we've heard of cries of truth being "outlandish" before !
>
> >             On Monday, August 13, 2012 11:56:25 PM UTC+5:30, Allan
> >             Heretic wrote:
>
> >                 we (docs and me) monitor it regularly,,  major problem
> >                   is a language one  ,,   we are not sure just what to
> >                 do.. i am sure it will all work out..  I have been
> >                 dealing with it for years Rigsy..  not worried besides
> >                 it is fun to drive doc nuts..
> >                 Allan
>
> >                 On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:35 PM, rigsy03
> >                 <rig...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >                     Just take those meds religiously. Have you tried
> >                     doing things with
> >                     your left hand if you are right-handed? Even like
> >                     brushing your teeth
> >                     or unlocking a door, etc.- it builds new synapses.
> >                     You are in good
> >                     company- Alexander and Caesar had epilipsy- maybe
> >                     you've lost nothing!
>
> >                     On Aug 13, 12:00 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
> >                     wrote:
> >                      > Very interesting,, I do know that because of my
> >                     epilepsy that part of my
> >                      > brain is weak and malfunctions. neural activity is
> >                      > very fascinating especially when it effects you
> >                     in daily life..  there is
> >                      > damage from the epileptic activity.
>
> >                      > worlds change believe me.. but i wonder what I
> >                     have lost.
> >                      > Allan
>
> >                      > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:37 PM, gabbydott
> >                     <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >                      > > I share your fears, which is why suggest a
> >                     limbo competition in which
> >                      > > you need to lower the bar.
>
> >                      > > So here is my video link for you as a sign of
> >                     understanding you:
>
> >                      >http://www.ted.com/talks/vs___r__amachandran_the_neurons_that___s__ha.... <http://www.ted.com/talks/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civi.>..
>
> >                      > > Am I close?
>
> >                      > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Vam
> >                     <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >                      > > > I believe, people who put in their 2 cents on
> >                     this thread were already
> >                      > > > daunted by my rules... no regurgitating other
> >                     people's thoughts.
>
> >                      > > > What's more basic than the topic : Are you a
> >                     human being ? In what way,
> >                      > > over
> >                      > > > and above what animals do ? And, all the
> >                     brilliant minds here are
> >                      > > > struggling...
>
> >                      > > > I am afraid, raising the bar into non-dual
> >                     will simply crash on them !
> >                      > > So...
>
> >                      > > > Mind Eyers !  Let me ask yet again...
>
> >                      > > > Are you a human being, over and above the
> >                     animal ways ?
>
> >                      > > > What do you think is so difficult about the
> >                     topic ?
>
> >                      > > > On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:29:47 PM
> >                     UTC+5:30, Molly wrote:
>
> >                      > > >> Moving in spirit, and outside the realm of
> >                     time, is non dual, and
> >                      > > >> therefore, also outside the realm of cause
> >                     and effect. I think when we
> >                      > > are
> >                      > > >> moving in spirit, and centered in a non dual
> >                     view, we have integrated
>
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