Re: Mind's Eye Re: Are You A Human Being ?

I share your fears, which is why suggest a limbo competition in which
you need to lower the bar.

So here is my video link for you as a sign of understanding you:
http://www.ted.com/talks/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civilization.html

Am I close?

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Vam <atewari2007@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe, people who put in their 2 cents on this thread were already
> daunted by my rules... no regurgitating other people's thoughts.
>
> What's more basic than the topic : Are you a human being ? In what way, over
> and above what animals do ? And, all the brilliant minds here are
> struggling...
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> I am afraid, raising the bar into non-dual will simply crash on them ! So...
>
> Mind Eyers ! Let me ask yet again...
>
> Are you a human being, over and above the animal ways ?
>
> What do you think is so difficult about the topic ?
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> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:29:47 PM UTC+5:30, Molly wrote:
>>
>> Moving in spirit, and outside the realm of time, is non dual, and
>> therefore, also outside the realm of cause and effect. I think when we are
>> moving in spirit, and centered in a non dual view, we have integrated
>> entirely. It does not mean time and cause and effect do not exist. It
>> means that our viewpoint transcends, and therefore our external and internal
>> experience of life transcends also. I love this Joseph Campbell quote:
>> "We can't rid the world of sorrow, but we can choose to live in joy ... The
>> Bodhisattva participates joyfully in the sorrows of the world." Maybe,
>> being human is the journey there (the view we bring into the world) and back
>> again (after being completely submersed in the world). Siddhartha.
>>
>> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:32:15 AM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the nature of man as we know it is really not going to change
>>> much, there will be time of better behavior and times of less desirable
>>> behavior. Other than for the development of the soul into a greater being in
>>> closer connection with the Entirety.
>>> Every soul has complete free choice in its development and progression.
>>>
>>> It is the relationship with the Entirety that is important.. some people
>>> seek this connection through wealth and greed, others through war and
>>> destruction.. What ever path that is chosen it will have effects on the
>>> soul.. and none of them actually effect the immortality of its existence.
>>> The soul is already eternal whether people believe it or not, even that
>>> does not matter.
>>>
>>> Darma tells us that life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. Karma
>>> tells us there are effect to be expected from our actions.. karma does not
>>> tell us when though. This can be a problem because of my understanding in
>>> the spiritual realm there is no time.
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Vam <atewa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If mere being raised by human beings, and being a part of their family,
>>>> is the criterion... I'm afraid, even dogs and cats can lay a claim to being
>>>> human.
>>>>
>>>> #BrainIsNotTheMind
>>>> I've never held in hand or dived into the brain 2 connect neurones, or
>>>> throttle endocrine glands, 2 deal with matters in the mind !
>>>>
>>>> And, to those who continue to primacy to the animal in man ... I've not
>>>> known of any animal devising 84 different, well thought out positions to
>>>> copulate, or prepare thousands of distinct food preparations and still
>>>> distinguish their flavours enough to write volumes on each !
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:09:24 AM UTC+5:30, AmandaRheen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the only thing that really allows me to know that I am a human
>>>>> being is that I was born into and grew up within a family of creatures who
>>>>> identified themselves and me as human beings. Then as reinforcement of this
>>>>> idea I attended large communal gatherings at regular intervals with others
>>>>> who generally looked and acted the same as myself. Occassionally the
>>>>> creatures in charge would take great pains to demand that we act like human
>>>>> beings, not like animals hehe. Mostly from these experiences I have learned
>>>>> to identify myself as 'human being'.
>>>>> As far as considering myself 'apart' from other animals I'm not sure I
>>>>> really attended that class. Perhaps I played hooky that day and was off
>>>>> riding my horse through the bush with our two dogs. Granted some of the
>>>>> human being creatures I knew would tell me we were apart from other
>>>>> creatures but my own human being family seemed less concerned about this
>>>>> distinction and more concerned with showing other creatures great care and
>>>>> respect in return for the loyalty and co-operation they gave in their
>>>>> interaction with us. Sure we occasionally ate one of them but animals have
>>>>> their own ways of levelling the field when they really feel like it. I
>>>>> concede though none of them ever actually ate me.
>>>>
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>>> |_D Allan
>>>
>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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