Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

What I mean by misucation is, don't you u me, without knowing where I
am coming from. The kind of bias training that you are suggesting here
is historically not new. Neil will give you the details.

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:57 AM, Francis Hunt <francis.hunt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe a possible beginning to change lies in a general societal shift in the
> way we see wealth and those who amass it. Rather than according them
> adulation, we should perhaps work on spreading the view that such people are
> necessarily morally deficient in some way. People in the possession of
> millions must have achieved this at the cost of the suffering of others - if
> not legally, then morally.
>
> This kind of attitude would then regard all those who work in banking and
> the so-called "financial services" with a mixture of pity and distain;
> people doing a distasteful job which, unfortunately, may be necessary given
> the way we run things - a bit like the way we would think about people who
> clean sewers; something someone has to do, perhaps, but nothing that anyone
> decent would want to do.
>
> The good opinion of one's fellows is a major aspect of our societal
> relations. To stop envying and praising the rich and instead begin pitying
> and despising them might be a start.
>
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> On 4 September 2012 04:22, archytas <nwterry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The problem is the business as usual solutions don't and can't work.
>> We hear stuff like bringing jobs back - but technology has changed so
>> much that what might once ave created 3000 jobs is now a factory run
>> by 100 people minding clever machines. We have been sending over half
>> our kids to university for a long time now - even China has a big
>> problem with low paid white collar workers with degrees (called the
>> Ant People). The investment in education still seems sound to most,
>> but it's not and is diverted from elsewhere. The world's highest
>> value company on market capitalisation makes toys.
>>
>> My guess is the problem starts with our attitude towards work and
>> stealing other people's effort. I believe this is as mad as, say,
>> societies that slaughtered their own teenagers to satisfy fertility
>> gods. The problem is that we need guaranteed work programmes as a
>> means to share created wealth and duties to each other AND some means
>> through which this isn't some kind of horrible control system. For
>> every answer there are 'Gabby objections' (no doubt I can produce
>> more). About half he youth of Europe is unemployed. There is work to
>> do, but surely trying to turn everyone into a Santa's elf producing
>> neater mobile toys can;t help.
>>
>> I'm led to believe deep confusion in our ideologies almost
>> automatically produces non-answers.
>>
>> On 3 Sep, 20:09, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I have been reading this posting oddly I am lost, I know there needs to
>> > be
>> > a solution.. But I do not have any ideas..
>> > Allan
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I sense you've thrown the Ayn Rand baby away. But there are places she
>> > > discusses money and how it is an expression of value, how it
>> > > represents
>> > > honest work, and why it deserves to be trashed when it accrues on
>> > > account
>> > > of efforts that are corrupt or valueless.
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>> > |_D Allan
>> >
>> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >
>> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
>> >
>> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
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