Re: Mind's Eye turning the world Greek

The triumph of the machine was anticipated by Veblen, wasn't it? (What
a strange man, however.) This opens the gap between human
responsibilty/ethics and an amoral machine. Not only in finance but
manufacture and marketing, the machine trumps the businessman/farmer/
medicine- well, everything. We have a new social network/contract as
well as fertile ground for misinformation and surveilance.

On Sep 3, 9:22 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is the business as usual solutions don't and can't work.
> We hear stuff like bringing jobs back - but technology has changed so
> much that what might once ave created 3000 jobs is now a factory run
> by 100 people minding clever machines.  We have been sending over half
> our kids to university for a long time now - even China has a big
> problem with low paid white collar workers with degrees (called the
> Ant People).  The investment in education still seems sound to most,
> but it's not and is diverted from elsewhere.  The world's highest
> value company on market capitalisation makes toys.
>
> My guess is the problem starts with our attitude towards work and
> stealing other people's effort.  I believe this is as mad as, say,
> societies that slaughtered their own teenagers to satisfy fertility
> gods.  The problem is that we need guaranteed work programmes as a
> means to share created wealth and duties to each other AND some means
> through which this isn't some kind of horrible control system.  For
> every answer there are 'Gabby objections' (no doubt I can produce
> more).  About half he youth of Europe is unemployed.  There is work to
> do, but surely trying to turn everyone into a Santa's elf producing
> neater mobile toys can;t help.
>
> I'm led to believe deep confusion in our ideologies almost
> automatically produces non-answers.
>
> On 3 Sep, 20:09, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I have been reading this posting  oddly I am lost, I know there needs to be
> > a solution.. But I do not have any ideas..
> > Allan
>
> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I sense you've thrown the Ayn Rand baby away. But there are places she
> > > discusses money and how it is an expression of value, how it represents
> > > honest work, and why it deserves to be trashed when it accrues on account
> > > of efforts that are corrupt or valueless.
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> >  (
> >   )
> > |_D Allan
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> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
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> >  Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text -
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