Re: Mind's Eye Re: Aliens, Slavery and Resources

I do not think aliens qualify as a god for all.. just beings.. I
think they will be under the same spiritual rules as we are simply
because they were created by the same God.. I have a difficult time
conceiving of creator having different rules for different creations..
the greater likelihood is they are under the same basic rule or rules
like "do no harm.". how that is interrupted by them is of interest.
Curiosity will be in common with us

Unfortunately a peaceful society does not make for a good adventure
science fiction story or movie
Allan

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 7:48 AM, pol.science kid <r.freebird@gmail.com> wrote:
> woah.. i didnt say it was true... i was just putting it out there for it to
> be commented on.. i find it interesting.. as far as definitions go.. where
> do we put aliens.. theyre not humans... there not animals.. are they part of
> nature..? what if theyre powerful than us..and their Gods.. a god for all..?
> like that...
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Poly because someone publishes something does not make it true,, it
>> makes it his opinion
>>
>> You a re dealing with the paper of an atheist who is publishing what
>> he thinks is true.. It is no different that my saying what I think is
>> true.. For me what I say is valid... what I am finding from this
>> discussion group and a friend .. What I am finding is that there is a
>> God. and every one has a soul including mr dawkins and that soul is
>> what controls the body not unlike your body driving a car.. with the
>> body being the soul and and the car playing the part of the body..
>> You can take the idea from there
>> Allan
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM, pol.science kid <r.freebird@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > whats the difference between reply and reply to all?..anyway... i
>> > browsed
>> > richard dawkins 'the god delusion' for a paper... in that he gives a
>> > case
>> > for Aliens being Gods.. i mean why cant they.. from our limited
>> > understanding..whats the difference..?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Lee Douglas <leerevdouglas@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hahahah in my experience even the best of Queens can be a little prissy
>> >> at
>> >> times.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, 25 October 2012 07:03:26 UTC+1, William L. Houts William
>> >> L.
>> >> Houts Lukaeon William L. Houts wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> OH, I agree with you about that. And it's basically the point I was
>> >>> trying to make to my irascible friend, Matthew. I don't think you
>> >>> solve
>> >>> your most difficult energy problems and go on to be a galactic
>> >>> terrorist.
>> >>> Terrorism is largely a strategy of the weak. And if you've
>> >>> mastered
>> >>> warp drive, then you probably have all kinds of toys available to you,
>> >>> including zero point energy or some equivalent.
>> >>>
>> >>> I just finished reading Matt's latest post on Facebook. He sang a
>> >>> waspish little aria about how I didn't understand reality and that he
>> >>> wasn't enjoying this conversation at ALL, and that he was hereby
>> >>> closing
>> >>> down his side of the argument. Matt really can be a pissy little queen
>> >>> sometimes.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --Bill
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10/24/2012 10:01 AM, archytas wrote:
>> >>> > I find it hard to think technologically advanced beings would be
>> >>> > bastards Bill. The so-called trade of imperialism was actually
>> >>> > depraved - with concentration camps, limb-severing and so on.
>> >>> > Queens
>> >>> > have to have their dramas mate! The aliens could be as bad as we
>> >>> > have
>> >>> > been. It would be good to explore good aliens and what such a good
>> >>> > life might be. We could not, in current biological form, share it.
>> >>> > They might leave us with the means to change so we could. I'd
>> >>> > choose
>> >>> > Damon Laplace's route in genetic change to travel the stars rather
>> >>> > than live a normal life span in an agrarian collective - but I'd
>> >>> > choose that over my current life in 'the economy'.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > In my least favourite episode of Voyager, Janeway refuses to drop
>> >>> > her
>> >>> > knickers for the technology that will get her crew home. There
>> >>> > could
>> >>> > be reasons for carrying a few casual queens in our crew! The quirks
>> >>> > thrown up in evolution usually have their uses.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think the chimps and dolphins ponder the human questions Lee.
>> >>> > Many
>> >>> > animals, including chimps and scrub jays seem to hold 'funerals'.
>> >>> > Some clams live 500 years (off Iceland) without our angst. My ideal
>> >>> > aliens will have a rational hatred of soap opera.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 24 Oct, 16:23, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> I think that Human history shows that it is very hard to break out
>> >>> >> of
>> >>> >> 'modes of thought' that eon, geography and culture instill into us.
>> >>> >> How
>> >>> >> hard then to reason as a non Earthling would? I think the only
>> >>> >> viable
>> >>> >> answer to your question is to say, I don't know.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Perhaps if we could get into the psyches of some of the other
>> >>> >> creatures
>> >>> >> that we share this planet with, we may find, or not, some
>> >>> >> similarities. It
>> >>> >> is an interesting question to ponder though. Does having
>> >>> >> a consciousness at a level sufficient enough to
>> >>> >> claim intelligence, inevitably lead to the asking of similar
>> >>> >> questions?
>> >>> >> Elephants, who I do belive to show a certain standard of
>> >>> >> emotional understanding and intelligence, do they ask 'Life! What's
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> all
>> >>> >> about?'
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wednesday, 24 October 2012 12:19:42 UTC+1, William L. Houts
>> >>> >> William
>> >>> >> L.
>> >>> >> Houts Lukaeon William L. Houts wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> All right, I just wanted to run this by you guys. I know it seems
>> >>> >>> I'm
>> >>> >>> always rattlling on about aliens, but they're really a stand in
>> >>> >>> for,
>> >>> >>> well, for a lot of things. Anyway, I've been on Facebook and
>> >>> >>> recently
>> >>> >>> made a status report commenting on the conversation we had going
>> >>> >>> on
>> >>> >>> here
>> >>> >>> about hypothetical aliens and what they might or might not want
>> >>> >>> from
>> >>> >>> us. And I was making the point that I made here: that said aliens
>> >>> >>> will
>> >>> >>> turn out to be just as befuddled by it all as we are, and are
>> >>> >>> probably
>> >>> >>> in no position to give us the goods on life's mysteries, or even
>> >>> >>> make
>> >>> >>> a
>> >>> >>> good cocktail.
>> >>> >>> Now, my friend Matt, who is very smart but also very bitchy, put
>> >>> >>> forth
>> >>> >>> Professor Hawking's notion: that we'd better keep our heads down
>> >>> >>> low,
>> >>> >>> because history tells us that when a more technologically advanced
>> >>> >>> species meets a less developed one, the results are usually
>> >>> >>> horrible
>> >>> >>> for
>> >>> >>> the latter. I replied that yes, this does seem to be the pattern
>> >>> >>> in
>> >>> >>> Earth history. But, I went on, races which manage to break the
>> >>> >>> lightspeed barrier are going to have better things to do than
>> >>> >>> enslave
>> >>> >>> 7
>> >>> >>> billion people, or even mistreat them very much. Their energy
>> >>> >>> problems,
>> >>> >>> I said more or less, will have been solved to such an extent that
>> >>> >>> they
>> >>> >>> won't have to vampirize us. Matt made it clear that he thought I
>> >>> >>> was
>> >>> >>> being terrifically naive.
>> >>> >>> Now, Mat is quickly becoming a sour old queen, but I want to know:
>> >>> >>> with
>> >>> >>> whom would you agree? Or is there a third answer which I haven't
>> >>> >>> proposed here?
>> >>> >>> --Bill
>> >>> >>> --
>> >>> >>> "I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
>> >>> >>> and boy are my arms tired."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> "I just flew in from the Land of the Dead
>> >>> and boy are my arms tired."
>> >>>
>> >> --
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>> >
>> > --
>> > EverComing
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>> |_D Allan
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>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>>
>> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>>
>> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
>>
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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.


I am a Natural Airgunner -

Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.

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