I agree the analysis in part Andrew - and it's an important one. I
don't see an agrarian solution
On 11 Nov, 11:26, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Rigsy If I could not build on a floodplain my home would be 2
> meters below sea level.. What you need to do is know how to control
> the flooding protecting the people while allowing the floods to renew
> the soil. ocean fronts I agree with you..
> Allan
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> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:32 AM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Forbid building on flood plains and ocean fronts. You will have to
> > redistribute the population also.
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> > On Nov 11, 3:01 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the
> >> harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to nature
> >> and organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable
> >> and have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate
> >> chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn the
> >> super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits
> >> higher than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be
> >> abandoned in order to survive.
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> >> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote:
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> >> > There has been fears of over population for centuries now.. you have
> >> > only pointed to problems that are already well know. At the same time
> >> > I do not read any possible soutions.
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> >> > How are the problems solved realistically or not realistic manner..
> >> > you never know where the solution comes from.
> >> > Allan
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> >> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey <andrew...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down anything too big, too high,
> >> > and
> >> > > diluting anything too concentrated, globalization is a threat to
> >> > mankind.
> >> > > See YouTube video "Globalization, Simplified"
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> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH41I-4uD-E&list=UU9rOAPUfZe3KEja0vvFp...
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> >> > > Text of Video
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> >> > > While the population is exponentially exploding, the earth housing them
> >> > is
> >> > > exponentially shrinking. It is as easy to travel and communicate across
> >> > the
> >> > > globe today as it was across the neighborhood a century ago. This opens
> >> > the
> >> > > doors up wide to globalization and forces everyone to play the same
> >> > game.
> >> > > Instead of giving the weak and poor players an advantage to make the
> >> > game
> >> > > more fair and meaningful, the playing field is leveled ensuring that the
> >> > > strong and wealthy players become unbeatable.
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> >> > > Money, the measure of value of the goods and services traded, has turned
> >> > > into a rubber band measuring tape that can be and is stretched and
> >> > shrunk by
> >> > > greedy speculators seeking short term profits. This causes great long
> >> > term
> >> > > suffering and sickening hardships. To ease the sufferings and
> >> > temporarily
> >> > > cover up illnesses, pharma industry churns out pills for all ills to
> >> > those
> >> > > who could afford them.
>
> >> > > The media has become the massage and its deafening message is to
> >> > consume.
> >> > > Those few who control the media have hijacked values and brainwashed
> >> > people
> >> > > into satisfying their short term addictive wants ahead of their long
> >> > term
> >> > > needs.
>
> >> > > When the criminal sectors who specialize in dealing with drugs, arms and
> >> > > slaves are globalized, they easily recruit the desperate poor to do the
> >> > > dirty work for them and hire politicians to cover up all that dirt. The
> >> > then
> >> > > use greedy banksters to launder their dirty money clean of any traces of
> >> > > stains.
>
> >> > > Visions have become impaired by short sightedness and blinded by
> >> > brilliant
> >> > > flashes of seductive images. Companies with their narrow fields of
> >> > interests
> >> > > follow principles and pursue goals that are unsustainable. They grow
> >> > until
> >> > > they are "too big to fail or nail" and end up being corporate welfare
> >> > cases
> >> > > supported and subsidized by the poor masses.
>
> >> > > Biotechnology dressed up as green and gene revolutionaries promise to
> >> > save
> >> > > hungry people from starvation. Like the communists and the global
> >> > > capitalists, they are corrupt at heart as their sole interest is
> >> > > accumulating wealth for themselves. The scientists and the politicians
> >> > > representing them are easily bought and mislead. Instead of feeding an
> >> > > overpopulated world, they are killing the soil and enslaving the people
> >> > into
> >> > > a dependance on the food they process. They enrich the impoverished
> >> > foods
> >> > > with chemicals and color and package them in expensive attractive boxes
> >> > to
> >> > > make them look fresh. Then they transport the foods thousands of
> >> > kilometers
> >> > > in polluting trucks to the supermarkets for the gullible hungry masses
> >> > who
> >> > > line up like sheep to buy them.
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> >> > > Most innovations in food biotechnology are profit driven rather than
> >> > need
> >> > > driven. Agro-industry ruins the soil, perpetuates social injustice and
> >> > > endangers the ecological balance in our environment. Depleted soils are
> >> > > infused with chemical fertilizers and monocultures are sprayed with
> >> > ever
> >> > > increasing and ever powerful poisons. This practice favours large
> >> > corporate
> >> > > farms who could afford this expensive technology and forces most of the
> >> > > traditional single-family farmers to abandon their lands.
>
> >> > > Plants are genetically modified to be resistant to a specific toxin
> >> > which
> >> > > kills all other plants. Crops are genetically modified with "terminal"
> >> > genes
> >> > > making their seeds infertile and making the farmers dependent on having
> >> > to
> >> > > buy seeds each year for the next year`s harvests. The bees, needed to
> >> > > fertilize seeds of all other naturally grown plants are slowly killed
> >> > off
> >> > > with these practices, placing all of nature in a very critical
> >> > situation.
> >> > > The manufacturers of these plants with terminal genes however find
> >> > > themselves in a very lucrative monopoly controlling the entire world`s
> >> > food
> >> > > supply.
>
> >> > > The reasons people go hungry are political and not technical, with the
> >> > > greedy rich and powerful controlling the production and distribution of
> >> > > their food. What life science corporations have in common is a narrow
> >> > > understanding of life based on the erroneous belief that nature can be
> >> > > subjected to human control. With powerful lobbying tactics, they have
> >> > bought
> >> > > and convinced politicians to allow patenting of life forms. Patents,
> >> > making
> >> > > life into a commodity to be bought and sold at the highest price, are
> >> > given
> >> > > to sequences of DNA codes that life wrote for all of nature. By
> >> > depleting
> >> > > natural resources and reducing the planet's biodiversity, the very
> >> > fabric of
> >> > > life on which everybody's well being depends on are damaged.
>
> >> > > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled scientists, the
> >> > > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and to return to nature
> >> > and
> >> > > organic farming embodying ecological principles that are sustainable and
> >> > > have been sustained for billions of years. Return farms from corporate
> >> > > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to family run farms. Turn
> >> > the
> >> > > super markets back into farmer markets. The game that values profits
> >> > higher
> >> > > than democracy, human rights and environmental protection must be
> >> > abandoned
> >> > > in order to survive.
>
> >> > > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, she tears down anything too big, too
> >> > high,
> >> > > and dilutes anything too concentrated.
>
> >> > > --
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> >> > --
> >> > (
> >> > )
> >> > |_D Allan
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> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> >> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
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> >> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text -
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> > --
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> --
> (
> )
> |_D Allan
>
> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> I am a Natural Airgunner -
>
> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
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