Re: Mind's Eye Re: Bondage

good old pocket knife would be great and forget the stuff to numb
the pain,, no nut fully castrated. public castrations could be fun
lots of screaming
Allan


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:25 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
> They are talking about chemical castration of the rapists in the Delhi
> gang-rape case , an admission of a high sexual drive in certain cases
> --- there are , of course , many other factors involved in such cases,
> but nevertheless , it seems to point towards biological and
> psychological determinants of human behavior. The boundaries that you
> talk of Rigs are visible to all , but when there are boundaries within
> boundaries it becomes bondage.
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:46 PM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There is a difference between bondage and boundaries, RP.
>>
>> On Dec 21, 2:40 am, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Those who believe in bondage and don't want to do something excuse
>>> themselves with the ' govern mentality ' but the very same people
>>> exhibit aggressive action in other situations. Similarly others who
>>> believe in free-will show a marked passivity in particular areas and
>>> easily rationalize inaction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I don't think it would be an equal state rigs - just fairer. We don't
>>> > really know. RP defines "I" and there are alternatives such as
>>> > "govern-mentality" which allow the I to be bound. I doubt, given
>>> > animal biology we are even born free. I don't drink much these days -
>>> > recovery time is too long!
>>>
>>> > On Dec 19, 7:19 am, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> I tend to agree with your last paragraph. The best recourse is to use
>>> >> your boundaries instead of being trapped by them; you also might find
>>> >> that most individuals would not want to live in such an equal state
>>> >> anyway.
>>>
>>> >> On Dec 18, 7:34 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > The Test ended as a boring draw and thus series win for England. One
>>> >> > would not have thought this possible when England went down in the
>>> >> > first Test - so the series win was a miracle of sorts - partly of
>>> >> > international organisation as few of our men were born in England. If
>>> >> > I'm interested at all these days it's to do with 'the truer word never
>>> >> > spoke' and our bondage to farcical ideologies of not being able to do
>>> >> > things. I played in two or three losing teams that grew to take on
>>> >> > all-comers without much change in personnel. There were no
>>> >> > inspirational speeches (well there were - but we laughed at them).
>>> >> > Winning in sport isn't much of a social model as it just changes who
>>> >> > the losers are - but we could make something of the spirit of 'can do'
>>> >> > in place of current sweeping of real issues under the carpet. I'm not
>>> >> > talking of a 'jock mentality' - that was common in the losing stage -
>>> >> > it's more to do with recognising how to contribute to the team and how
>>> >> > to do those things that facilitate others, feel good about that and
>>> >> > encourage it.
>>>
>>> >> > Part of our bondage is to do with what we consider winning to be and
>>> >> > managerial clowns who want to inspire their companies to be the
>>> >> > Manchester United of their commercial sector. This misses the fact
>>> >> > that we'd be much better off with loads more people playing soccer
>>> >> > instead of watching vastly over-paid freaks who have never done a
>>> >> > day's work in their lives. The story is always the same - 'global
>>> >> > competition' means we have to pay vast fees to have Man U, the
>>> >> > banksters, coffee shops and hotel chains who evade tax (legally
>>> >> > because we are such mugs - and in massive contradiction to espoused
>>> >> > ideologies and what is imposed on the rest of us) - or the players
>>> >> > will go elsewhere - and we are so useless we can't sell better coffee
>>> >> > and butties than Starwucks. The first bondage we can't look in the
>>> >> > eye is libidinal - forced on us because we can't restrain the
>>> >> > libidinal economy. This is essentially bondage to simplistic notions
>>> >> > of cause and effect and not seeing the wood for the trees. We have
>>> >> > police and law because of bandits - yet can't apply this reasoning to
>>> >> > financial services and are subject to nightmare threats made real
>>> >> > through income deprivation, poverty and unemployment. It's time (one
>>> >> > can only say with a hollow laugh) for change.
>>>
>>> >> > Anyone who fears the social engineering that might allow cultural
>>> >> > change for the better should not speak before looking at how we are
>>> >> > being engineered by the current financial system and the way it places
>>> >> > ownership and rents into a few hands - liberalism is, in fact, massive
>>> >> > engineering and a politburo rather than a free alternative. I'll
>>> >> > believe we have an attempt at freedom when I can choose to work in a
>>> >> > cooperative zone in which we are all in control of the means of
>>> >> > production and wealth distribution. Liberalism is so scared of this
>>> >> > we aren't allowed to try. We are allowed spiritual reflection -
>>> >> > presumably because this is known to be fruitless.
>>>
>>> >> > On Dec 16, 1:23 pm, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > I suspect we pre-select defeat in
>>> >> > > believing the condition impossible.
>>>
>>> >> > > A truer word was never spoke. I suspect we often do, by rote, never
>>> >> > > knowing the limitations we, ourselves, impose in the process.
>>>
>>> >> > > On Dec 16, 3:19 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > Slip and Gruff are missed. Watched a Cronenberg film on Jung and
>>> >> > > > Freud last night - a bit limper than Japanese knots Don. Here we are
>>> >> > > > clinging to a rock with no real idea of where we come from,
>>> >> > > > constrained by the speed of light (owing to the role of momentum in E
>>> >> > > > = mc2 and right angled triangles) and a biology that collapses in the
>>> >> > > > absence of gravity, has us slaves to genes and algorithms of an
>>> >> > > > information world that arises when chemicals get together. The
>>> >> > > > insights of science debunk myths of origin for what they are - myths -
>>> >> > > > and yet knowing the chains of illusion seems little help in getting
>>> >> > > > beyond them. We could be happier not knowing in the ignorant bliss
>>> >> > > > that waits for mass extinction not knowing it comes. Politicians can
>>> >> > > > still get away with urging us to be proud of our nations (of the
>>> >> > > > Britain and USA using concentration camps in Southern Africa and the
>>> >> > > > Philippines around 1900 - the vile murders in the Congo originating in
>>> >> > > > Berlin meetings in the 1860s that continue today in imperialism's
>>> >> > > > changed form?). We are bound by needs to make livings - something
>>> >> > > > technology has probably rendered unnecessary but we are still kept in
>>> >> > > > ideological shackles as surely as women caged in black bags.
>>>
>>> >> > > > There has to be more than this RP. The spiritual turns with the
>>> >> > > > material and I'm not sure either has to 'come first'. England look
>>> >> > > > like winning the Test series in India. The game is now ultimately
>>> >> > > > dull with a day and a half to go and all of India praying for a
>>> >> > > > miracle. I suspect rigsy and I would be plotting sight-seeing on our
>>> >> > > > way out through the beer tent and cooling gin had she been unwise
>>> >> > > > enough to venture forth to sample the cultural delights of such old
>>> >> > > > colonialism! We'd just be hearing the Indian roar as the ball starts
>>> >> > > > to spin and the English captain is victim of a bad umpiring decision
>>> >> > > > not subject to technological review. We'd still leave - there is only
>>> >> > > > so much cricket one can force on friends. Relief from northern
>>> >> > > > hemisphere weather would be good though rigs. I sense we are waiting
>>> >> > > > for a cultural-spiritual miracle as likely as one on the flat pitch in
>>> >> > > > Nagpur. I suspect our bombardment with trivia is the problem Don.
>>> >> > > > Much as i can imagine us together in a heroic last wicket stand
>>> >> > > > thwarting the guile of India's spinners (the first ever Test was
>>> >> > > > between the USA and Canada so you have the pedigree!), I guess the
>>> >> > > > good guy is the one who changes light bulbs for his old neighbours.
>>> >> > > > What might we be without material bondage and with religion we could
>>> >> > > > believe in other than myth RP? I suspect we pre-select defeat in
>>> >> > > > believing the condition impossible.
>>>
>>> >> > > > On Dec 15, 3:57 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > > I know just what you mean.. Eric Clapton is exciting to listen to
>>> >> > > > > Allan
>>>
>>> >> > > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Don Johnson <daj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > > ...and here I thought this was going to be a lesson in interesting Japanese
>>> >> > > > > > knots. Maybe next time. i miss Slipdisc.
>>>
>>> >> > > > > > I am bound by my morals. Even though i may step outside these boundaries
>>> >> > > > > > from time to time I generally feel bad about it and try to make amends as
>>> >> > > > > > i'm capable. I WANT to be the good guy. Problem with kids today(harrumph) is
>>> >> > > > > > they want to be bad boyzz. It's cooler.
>>>
>>> >> > > > > > The point on limitations is spot on. i hear a blistering solo from Eric
>>> >> > > > > > Clapton and am spell bound. BB King I can do all day. Albert too. Clapton
>>> >> > > > > > is WAAAY outta my league. I don't even try anymore.
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiNUZTyukC4
>>>
>>> >> > > > > > dj
>>>
>>> >> > > > > > On Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:24:51 AM UTC-6, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >> Are we bound to see what we want to see? I am bound by Nature which
>>> >> > > > > >> consists of my body and brain and other individuals and the
>>> >> > > > > >> environment surrounding me.
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 5:45 PM, andrew vecsey <andrew...@gmail.com>
>>> >> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> >> > > > > >> > We are bounded by our limitations and desires. In the end we can not see
>>> >> > > > > >> > all
>>> >> > > > > >> > there is to be seen and we see mainly what we want to see.
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >> > On Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:51:07 AM UTC+1, RP Singh wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >> >> It is I who see , I who hear, I who reason , imagine , understand ; and
>>> >> > > > > >> >> again it is I who am angry , loving , jealous , and I who act and
>>> >> > > > > >> >> react. So
>>> >> > > > > >> >> where is my bondage ???
>>>
>>> >> > > > > >> > --
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>>> >> > > > > > --
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>>> >> > > > > --
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>>> >> > > > > )
>>> >> > > > > |_D Allan
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>>> >> > > > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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>>> >> > > > > I am a Natural Airgunner -
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