Re: Mind's Eye Re: A Book At Xmas or two

Molly try the project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/
and they are free
Allan

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting, achy, my husband and I are in the same boat. I keep going back
> to the classics on my shelf and the rare books yet uncovered that I can find
> for a song at the internet bookseller. Mostly, we surf the web for shreds
> of what is new in the research and come up short, as this is passed on at a
> need to know basis and posted on the Internet after the party or at the risk
> of indiscretion. Reading has been more interesting during other phases of
> life for me.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 27, 2012 7:08:50 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>>
>> I do something similar to Molly. Reading is largely about trying to
>> fly with ideas for me, different to the day-to-day. I suspect most
>> people in here would like anyone who wants to to be able to access
>> universities. I'd do this by changing what the university is. What
>> we have actually been doing seems to be madness. We are graduating
>> half our population without increasing 'working smarter' jobs or even
>> considering whether this is really possible - the probability is we
>> are devaluing graduate advantage just as we force kids into large debt
>> to get the qualifications. Finance, traditionally an unwanted cost
>> against production and sales, now leeches massive amounts from
>> production we used to retain as wages and liquid capital amongst our
>> 50% least well off (this was about 20% of GDP when I left school ans
>> is down to less than 1%). What I find in reading is consistent
>> distraction from what really matters. There isn't much difference
>> between watch mainstream news, whatever entertainment is on offer and
>> the academic vanity publishing. It feels as though there is nothing
>> to read or watch.
>>
>> On 27 Dec, 23:19, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't agree on the body language or behavioural cues rigs - all the
>> > tests done show we are about as reliable as the toss of a coin. The
>> > people who are best at making us think we can read them are
>> > psychopaths - three times more likely to secure parole from 'experts'.
>> >
>> > On 27 Dec, 09:15, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
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>> > > Yes the rich have more opportunities and exposure to make more
>> > > wealth.. why would you say that is Rigsy?? Why are not these
>> > > opportunities and exposure created for the poor? .. they are the ones
>> > > that need it. or could it be part of the perks of worshiping at the
>> > > feet of the golden calf??
>> > > Allan
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:49 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > It may be the rich have more opportunities and exposure, Allan.
>> > > > Human
>> > > > nature is human nature. Also, celebrity creates another kind of
>> > > > challenge as the artist types gain fame and fortune- often to laugh
>> > > > at
>> > > > their own popularity and adulation of the public and critics-
>> > > > Picasso
>> > > > comes to mind, for instance- have a savage quote of his around here
>> > > > somewhere.
>> >
>> > > > On Dec 25, 8:04 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> Oddly I think you have a better chance for good ethics among the
>> > > >> poor
>> > > >> over the rich,
>> > > >> Allan
>> >
>> > > >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > I wonder if the researchers took into account that a truly
>> > > >> > ethical person
>> > > >> > would not participate in the kind of rubbish that presents
>> > > >> > predictable
>> > > >> > limited outcomes as fact. There may, indeed, be a correlation
>> > > >> > between
>> > > >> > creativity and ethics, but I suspect it is more inclusive and
>> > > >> > requires
>> > > >> > examination without the limits designed to define results. I keep
>> > > >> > going back
>> > > >> > to the model of spiral dynamics, one that allows and understands
>> > > >> > that we all
>> > > >> > move up and down and between memes during our lives given the
>> > > >> > circumstances
>> > > >> > of our experience. Someone who does not have enough money for
>> > > >> > food may
>> > > >> > cheat in this experiment more than someone who has never known
>> > > >> > financial
>> > > >> > stress or hunger. Here is a pretty good explanation of the
>> > > >> > original Graves
>> > > >> > material, although I've seen better, its the best I could find
>> > > >> > online this
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > morning.http://www.edumar.cl/documentos/SD_version_for_constellation5.pdf
>> >
>> > > >> > On Monday, December 24, 2012 5:58:21 PM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> >> A free paper with the ideas is at
>> > > >> >>http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files/11-064.pdf
>> > > >> >> I was interested because I find professional ethics and
>> > > >> >> religious
>> > > >> >> morality collapse under circumstances of self-interest and
>> > > >> >> become
>> > > >> >> rationalisation. WE need creative solutions - but there is a
>> > > >> >> dark
>> > > >> >> side to creativity.
>> >
>> > > >> >> On 24 Dec, 22:03, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > "The (Honest) Truth About Dishonesty: How We Lie to Everyone
>> > > >> >> > —
>> > > >> >> > Especially Ourselves" by Dan Ariely asks a seemingly simple
>> > > >> >> > question —
>> > > >> >> > "is dishonesty largely restricted to a few bad apples, or is
>> > > >> >> > it a more
>> > > >> >> > widespread problem?" — and goes on to reveal the surprising,
>> > > >> >> > illuminating, often unsettling truths that underpin the
>> > > >> >> > uncomfortable
>> > > >> >> > answer. Like cruelty, dishonesty turns out to be a remarkably
>> > > >> >> > prevalent phenomenon better explained by circumstances and
>> > > >> >> > cognitive
>> > > >> >> > processes than by concepts like character.
>> >
>> > > >> >> > Work like this is challenging traditional economics - the
>> > > >> >> > genre is
>> > > >> >> > 'behavioural economics'. My own take on this book and a lot
>> > > >> >> > of work
>> > > >> >> > from brain science and history is that we are at a tipping
>> > > >> >> > point in
>> > > >> >> > respect of the possibility of a human science. I'd like to
>> > > >> >> > see a
>> > > >> >> > broader literature take up this challenge beyond current
>> > > >> >> > drivel on
>> > > >> >> > black and white hats.
>> >
>> > > >> >> > So what are you guys reading?
>> >
>> > > >> > --
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>> > > >> |_D Allan
>> >
>> > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >
>> > > >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> > > >> Sometimes I need expert advice..- Hide quoted text -
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>> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>> >
>> > > > --
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>> > > --
>> > > (
>> > > )
>> > > |_D Allan
>> >
>> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >
>> > > Of course I talk to myself,
>> > > Sometimes I need expert advice..
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|_D Allan

Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Of course I talk to myself,
Sometimes I need expert advice..

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