Re: Mind's Eye Re: Newtown Killings

those killings are so sad.
Allan

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:
> The undercurrent of violence leads to all of us becoming suspect.
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> Yes, indeed.
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> On Dec 16, 12:22 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The debates/action seem to have gone nowhere Molly. One can even
>> wonder whether collapsing lobby power and vast money in US politics
>> would help by preventing the NRA targeting politicians wanting to make
>> the anti-stand. The speed of our response to similar incidents in the
>> UK has been very poor and I favour more weapons being carried by our
>> police (though some idiot cop attacked a blind guy with a Taser
>> recently, claiming his white stick was a Samurai sword). The
>> undercurrent of violence leads to all of us becoming suspect.
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>> On Dec 16, 3:10 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > the concept of more guns less death is totally erroneous, many people
>> > especially those that have to have many guns have a problem.. My job
>> > required me to carry a pistol and it was concealed, Truth is I hated
>> > it.. and was written upon more than one occasion for not carrying my
>> > weapon.the truth is if you kill some one you can never give it back..
>> > if you cause injury it is permanent. anyone wanting to carry a
>> > concealed weapon is really not all there I am sorry.
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>> > I still love target practice and go through about 500 pellets a
>> > month,, my pistol now is a little pump crosman .177 and it is a blast
>> > I have more fun sitting in my back yard plinking away and my yard is
>> > only 12 meters long.. my wife and I have a competition going.. we
>> > don't miss and the groups are a tight as the pistol is capable of.
>> > the truth is It is far more fun than I have ever had with any of the
>> > guns I have owned .. and the cheapest.. to allow nuts to carry
>> > concealed weapons.. no wonder I like it over here..
>> > Allan
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>> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Molly <mollyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I suspect that this is one of those Michigan issues that James was
>> > > referring to as there is legislation before the governor now that
>> > > would extend the right to carry laws currently on the books to include
>> > > those facilities now excluded like arenas, convention centers,
>> > > hospitals, schools etc.......
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>> > > I completely agree that the problem is not with the guns, and that
>> > > agendas are being driven at every opportunity. But I must say, as one
>> > > working in a facility that may host 100,000/day, that anyone
>> > > discharging a firearm at any time would create crowd control issues
>> > > wherein a multitude of folks would die or suffer injury from causes
>> > > other than gunshot. The equation that more guns=less death is indeed
>> > > questionable. Whether or not we will ever be able to eliminate crazy
>> > > is also. Answers don't come easy, and we often spin our wheels
>> > > looking for them rather than making any real progress,
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>> > > On Dec 16, 7:43 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> It's impossible to think about tragedies like Newtown without just
>> > >> wishing they didn't happen and sorrow for the victims and bereaved.
>> > >> In western Europe we tend to see such events as American and a result
>> > >> of lunatic gun control. A fair representation of this thinking can be
>> > >> found in today's Observer - a liberal Sunday broadsheet.http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/16/newtown-shooting-...
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>> > >> The gist is one in ten thousand will die through firearm use in the US
>> > >> every year with more deaths than in Syria in its civil war. Arguments
>> > >> on this issue quickly degenerate with some saying the answer is to arm
>> > >> more decent people (so they can shoot the creeps and limit damage) or
>> > >> the right to bear arms to protect democracy from government.
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>> > >> The real question is how we can stop scum, creeps, nutters and people
>> > >> pushed over the edge from using violence against others. We are all
>> > >> frankly wide open to this and the problem of what happens to our
>> > >> societies because of measures taken in prevention. I wonder whether
>> > >> answers to this may be well outside gun law and the NRA opposition to
>> > >> it - this 'debate' has, after all, gone nowhere forever - much as we
>> > >> have not prevented our governments pursuing imperialist wars or race
>> > >> to the bottom global economics.
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>> > |_D Allan
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>> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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>> > I am a Natural Airgunner -
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>> > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.
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|_D Allan

Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.


I am a Natural Airgunner -

Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.

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