Re: Mind's Eye The language of thinking

We often 'keep things to ourselves' Allan. I come up with a lot
internally that I find ineffable. Thinking is often like a cut-up
scrapbook of memories in my head - though I've never kept a
scrapbook. I often think that language is esoteric - as in recent
experiments that have created minus absolute Kelvin temperatures that
are actually higher temperatures than absolute zero - which sounds
like tosh unless you know the esoteric definition of temperature in
science as other than what the thermometer reads when stuck in
something. One is confronted in explanation with what others don't
know, one's own ignorance and various gatekeepers, censorships and so
on - I take these as part of language. Music and dance, eurhythmics
and so on play communicative roles - though most I see on offer only
boredom for me.

On 6 Jan, 17:54, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> what good is thinking if you can not communicate it,
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> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There is still a question as to whether language plays any role in
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> > On 6 Jan, 15:41, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> This is indeed a very, very complex topic worth discussing and simplifying.
> >> Help me understand what you are aiming at by telling me whether music and
> >> dance would also account for languages of thinking. Thanks.
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> >> 2013/1/6 andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
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> >> > I have written a new chapter to my "Think Park - A Journey thru space and
> >> > time" publication/video that made me think more about thinking. Whenever I
> >> > think, I seem to be talking to myself, I can think about something in my
> >> > memory by imagining and reliving sensations I remember, but whenever I
> >> > think about those memories, I ultimately revert to talking to my self (up
> >> > to now, fortunately silently). Do others in this group of thinkers have the
> >> > same experience? If yes, why do you think that it is like that? If not, how
> >> > do you manage to think without mentally talking it out? The excerpt of my
> >> > new chapter that started me thinking about this line of thought is below:
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> >> > "Before men could talk, they groaned and grunted.  Just like with crying
> >> > and laughing, it was sometimes difficult to tell the difference between
> >> > displays of sorrow and joy, or pain and pleasure.  At the 60 meter point
> >> > from the start of the think park, about 18,000 years ago, man started to
> >> > use *words* to display his emotions. Words helped man to think and
> >> > enabled him to articulate and share his inner most thoughts.  *Pictures
> >> > and written words* enabled his thoughts and his knowledge to be stored
> >> > for later contemplation and to be scattered like seed to grow.  This
> >> > cultivation, communication and sharing of thoughts, knowledge and
> >> > experience resulted in the growth of *agriculture* that enabled *
> >> > civilizations* to flourish."
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> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
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> Of course I talk to myself,
> Sometimes I need expert advice..

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