Re: Mind's Eye Motive

Oddly Gabby the answer is yes to your question.. I really don't care
what people believe.. but I get tired of some weird statement that
always leads back to the same point,,

One time I actually watched get off his point and look within himself
only to get totally freaked out ..

Now Gabby I like looking at new ideas with the twist and turns..
believe me it will not change my core values.. but provides good for
thought. and see what doors open up.. when you sit down and look at a
statement that is totally meant to get you back to the same point..
don't buy that point.. Andrew comes up with some strange ideas and
when they are written out quite interesting,,

Gabby I threw out the idea of a zombie.. not really much response to
take on a weird and strange idea.. turned out that it is not original
which I thick is funny as all get out. I thought the idea is to grow
and expand ones thinking not be ship wrecked on a solitary idea..
Allan

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guess what, Allan, me too! That doesn't stop me from noticing interferences
> from other categorical imperatives though. Your Master Jesus, for example,
> do you think he would have treated RP the way you treat him? I don't think
> so. RP has done you or anyone else here no harm, he is simply presenting his
> output to us. It's an offer to pick up on anything he says and he will
> politely continue to provide you with the next output products. Thanks, RP!
> Good to have you on board too.
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>>
>> I can read english gabby and I do understand it..
>> Allan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand
>> > that
>> > RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?'
>> > trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors,
>> > along
>> > the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves
>> > and
>> > our environment.
>> >
>> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> >> in which you believe..
>> >>
>> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>> >>
>> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > and
>> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness
>> >> > is
>> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong
>> >> > instinctive
>> >> > sex
>> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others
>> >> > for
>> >> > our
>> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious
>> >> > motives ?
>> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even
>> >> > aware
>> >> > even
>> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> >> > freely.
>> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we
>> >> > can
>> >> > be
>> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> >> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> (
>> >> )
>> >> |_D Allan
>> >>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> >> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> >> in which you believe..
>> >>
>> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>> >>
>> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > and
>> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness
>> >> > is
>> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong
>> >> > instinctive
>> >> > sex
>> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others
>> >> > for
>> >> > our
>> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious
>> >> > motives ?
>> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even
>> >> > aware
>> >> > even
>> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> >> > freely.
>> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we
>> >> > can
>> >> > be
>> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> >> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> (
>> >> )
>> >> |_D Allan
>> >>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> >> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> (
>> )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> Of course I talk to myself,
>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
>



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|_D Allan

Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Of course I talk to myself,
Sometimes I need expert advice..

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