Re: Mind's Eye Motive

Thanks , Gabby.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:15 PM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guess what, Allan, me too! That doesn't stop me from noticing interferences
> from other categorical imperatives though. Your Master Jesus, for example,
> do you think he would have treated RP the way you treat him? I don't think
> so. RP has done you or anyone else here no harm, he is simply presenting his
> output to us. It's an offer to pick up on anything he says and he will
> politely continue to provide you with the next output products. Thanks, RP!
> Good to have you on board too.
>
>
> 2013/1/3 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>>
>> I can read english gabby and I do understand it..
>> Allan
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 12:52 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Please, Allan. YOU are replying in accordance with what YOU understand
>> > that
>> > RP says. The result of long and many years of 'What do YOU think?'
>> > trainings. Motives are generated by unconscious and conscious factors,
>> > along
>> > the scales of gratification and avoidance of suffering - for ourselves
>> > and
>> > our environment.
>> >
>> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> >> in which you believe..
>> >>
>> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>> >>
>> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > and
>> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness
>> >> > is
>> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong
>> >> > instinctive
>> >> > sex
>> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others
>> >> > for
>> >> > our
>> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious
>> >> > motives ?
>> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even
>> >> > aware
>> >> > even
>> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> >> > freely.
>> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we
>> >> > can
>> >> > be
>> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> >> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> (
>> >> )
>> >> |_D Allan
>> >>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> >> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/1/2 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> According to what you have said in the past you have no freedom or
>> >> latitude at all in you activities it is all dictated to you by the god
>> >> in which you believe..
>> >>
>> >> Just what are you looking for?? some one to say that you have
>> >> permission to believe some thing else.. then you have my permission
>> >> and blessing.. but I do not think that is what you want,, I think
>> >> you are simply trying to justify your beliefs.. for me you do not
>> >> have to do that .. you can believe as you want..
>> >>
>> >> Oh well discussions with you go no where,,
>> >> Allan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 6:31 PM, RP Singh <1234rp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Psychologists say that a person's conscious motives are not the real
>> >> > determinants of behavior but one's real motives lie in the
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > and
>> >> > one is not aware of them. A person who is obsessed with cleanliness
>> >> > is
>> >> > ostensibly a very clean person but in reality he has strong
>> >> > instinctive
>> >> > sex
>> >> > drive which get repressed as he cannot accept them.
>> >> > The question is that are we to judge ourselves or judged by others
>> >> > for
>> >> > our
>> >> > behavior by the conscious motives or the repressed unconscious
>> >> > motives ?
>> >> > Clearly we cannot be judged for factors of which we are not even
>> >> > aware
>> >> > even
>> >> > though they are the real determinants of our actions.
>> >> > The question now arises of our will , is our will free ? Consciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > free , we think and act as we want , we can open or close our hand
>> >> > freely.
>> >> > So , we have freedom of choice , and if our will is bound by
>> >> > unconscious
>> >> > determinants we cannot be held accountable for them. If unconsciously
>> >> > we
>> >> > are
>> >> > selfish and consciously generous , it is our generosity for which we
>> >> > can
>> >> > be
>> >> > judged and not the unconscious motive. So , the phantom of Bondage
>> >> > evaporates into thin air !
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> (
>> >> )
>> >> |_D Allan
>> >>
>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> >> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> (
>> )
>> |_D Allan
>>
>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>>
>> Of course I talk to myself,
>> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
>

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