Re: Mind's Eye Re: the majority opinion

the majority opinion is the easiest one to manipulate as it has no
idea what it is. because of that it is the easiest to control being
both mindless, disorientated with no where to go and no idea of what
it believes as well as willing to believe the comforting lie rather
tan the simple truth.


On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM, andrew vecsey <andrewvecsey@gmail.com> wrote:
> The majority opinion is the most FAIR, most JUST, most comprehensive....
> opinion. You can not call it the best, the most correct, or the most moral
> etc...because those evaluations are personal. Majority opinion is not
> personal.
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:15:25 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>
>> .......I think we know
>> what the right things to do are but are scared of our impotence -
>> understanding more of why might help.
>>
>> On Jan 26, 10:14 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In present tense it means acknowledging the massive amount of illnesses,
>> > deaths and general deformation of humanness because of a protestant work
>> > ethics that serves very much the one and less the many. I hope you can
>> > decipher my shorthand by now.
>> >
>> > 2013/1/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Yes and no one is more or less past tense the other is on going,
>> > > one killing was based off racial superiority,, the other killing is
>> > > based off religious superiority,
>> > > Whats the difference.. ??
>> >
>> > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > The other serving as a better example of wickedness is a classic,
>> > > > Allan.
>> >
>> > > > 2013/1/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > >> A better example Riggs and sadly enough is Islam in today's
>> > > >> world..
>> > > >> This is evidenced in all the news reports of the day.
>> >
>> > > >> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:43 AM, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> > The Nazis seem an obvious example of fairly recent history-
>> > > >> > that's all
>> > > >> > I meant- and history is littered with examples as explicated by
>> > > >> > Archytas. It's as if the majority gets caught up in a wave- to
>> > > >> > use
>> > > >> > Molly's image. Though there may be concrete reasons at the base,
>> > > >> > it is
>> > > >> > often an irrational reaction. My point is that when dissent is
>> > > >> > silenced, democracy is in trouble.
>> >
>> > > >> > On Jan 25, 1:25 pm, Gabby <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> Ah, rigs. :( Where is Molly by the way?
>> > > >> >> Let's give the majority opinion problem a hearty positive spin
>> > > >> >> and
>> > > say:
>> > > >> >> the
>> > > >> >> majority of Germans is happy that the majority of Americans is
>> > > happily
>> > > >> >> forming their opinions in America and exchange it over there. :)
>> >
>> > > >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2013 2:03:29 PM UTC+1, rigs wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> >> > And very often their very existence does depend upon going
>> > > >> >> > along
>> > > with
>> > > >> >> > the majority. However, one feature of democracy is that of
>> > > >> >> > dissent
>> > > >> >> > but
>> > > >> >> > it can be risky esp. if the majority has a mob mentality. When
>> > > >> >> > you
>> > > >> >> > think of the average classroom it is obvious that the pattern
>> > > >> >> > is to
>> > > >> >> > echo rather than question and the same applies to other areas
>> > > >> >> > of
>> > > >> >> > life.
>> > > >> >> > It is just as likely that the group can be corrupt so
>> > > >> >> > "membership"
>> > > >> >> > can
>> > > >> >> > be a doom- ex: Nazis, etc.
>> >
>> > > >> >> > On Jan 25, 1:43 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > If there is one concept on Earth that has been the absolute
>> > > >> >> > > bane
>> > > of
>> > > >> >> > > human existence (besides global elitism), it would have to
>> > > >> >> > > be the
>> > > >> >> > > concept of the "majority opinion". The moment men began
>> > > >> >> > > refusing
>> > > >> >> > > to
>> > > >> >> > > develop their own world views without first asking "What
>> > > >> >> > > does
>> > > >> >> > > everyone
>> > > >> >> > > else think?", they set themselves up for an endless future
>> > > >> >> > > of
>> > > >> >> > > failures. We are, of course, very social beings, and our
>> > > >> >> > > natures
>> > > >> >> > > drive us to seek those of like mind and spirit in what some
>> > > >> >> > > might
>> > > >> >> > > call
>> > > >> >> > > a "tribal imperative". However, this imperative to organize
>> > > >> >> > > is
>> > > >> >> > > often
>> > > >> >> > > manipulated by those who understand the psychological
>> > > >> >> > > mechanisms
>> > > >> >> > > behind it. Oligarchs and tyrants abuse and exploit the
>> > > >> >> > > inherent
>> > > >> >> > > social natures of the people in order to fool them into
>> > > abandoning
>> > > >> >> > > their individuality for the sake of the group, or some
>> > > >> >> > > abstract
>> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > dishonest ideal. When successful, the organization of a
>> > > >> >> > > culture
>> > > >> >> > > becomes bitter and twisted, changing from a tribe or a
>> > > >> >> > > community
>> > > of
>> > > >> >> > > sovereign individuals, into a nightmare collective of
>> > > >> >> > > soulless
>> > > >> >> > > sheep.
>> >
>> > > >> >> > > Human beings desperately want to belong, but, they also
>> > > desperately
>> > > >> >> > > want to understand the environment around them. Often, the
>> > > desire
>> > > >> >> > > to
>> > > >> >> > > belong and the desire to know the truth conflict. In some
>> > > >> >> > > societies,
>> > > >> >> > > in order to be accepted, one must give up on his search for
>> > > >> >> > > truth
>> > > >> >> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > avoid eliciting the anger of others. This causes a severe
>> > > >> >> > > mental
>> > > >> >> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > emotional disturbance within a population. In order to
>> > > >> >> > > reconcile
>> > > >> >> > > their conflicting needs within a system that does not
>> > > >> >> > > nurture
>> > > their
>> > > >> >> > > quest for transparency, they tend to unconsciously cling to
>> > > >> >> > > the
>> > > >> >> > > "majority view" as if their very existence depends on it.
>> > > >> >> > > The
>> > > idea
>> > > >> >> > > of
>> > > >> >> > > the majority view or the "mainstream", gives people the
>> > > >> >> > > sense
>> > > that
>> > > >> >> > > they are a part of a group, and at the same time, gives them
>> > > >> >> > > the
>> > > >> >> > > illusion of being informed.
>> >
>> > > >> >> > > The above from Zerohedge - is it right? What does it say
>> > > >> >> > > about
>> > > our
>> > > >> >> > > general ability to argue rationally? I agree with what is
>> > > >> >> > > said
>> > > >> >> > > here -
>> > > >> >> > > yet believe it suggests we need a radical alternative of
>> > > education
>> > > >> >> > > as
>> > > >> >> > > we have experienced it.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > > >> >> - Show quoted text -
>> >
>> > > >> > --
>> >
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> (
>> > > >> )
>> > > >> |_D Allan
>> >
>> > > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >
>> > > >> Of course I talk to myself,
>> > > >> Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >
>> > > >> --
>> >
>> > > > --
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > (
>> > > )
>> > > |_D Allan
>> >
>> > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>> >
>> > > Of course I talk to myself,
>> > > Sometimes I need expert advice..
>> >
>> > > --
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Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.

Of course I talk to myself,
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