The other serving as a better example of wickedness is a classic, Allan.
2013/1/26 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
A better example Riggs and sadly enough is Islam in today's world..
This is evidenced in all the news reports of the day.
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On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:43 AM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Nazis seem an obvious example of fairly recent history- that's all
> I meant- and history is littered with examples as explicated by
> Archytas. It's as if the majority gets caught up in a wave- to use
> Molly's image. Though there may be concrete reasons at the base, it is
> often an irrational reaction. My point is that when dissent is
> silenced, democracy is in trouble.
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> On Jan 25, 1:25 pm, Gabby <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ah, rigs. :( Where is Molly by the way?
>> Let's give the majority opinion problem a hearty positive spin and say: the
>> majority of Germans is happy that the majority of Americans is happily
>> forming their opinions in America and exchange it over there. :)
>>
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>> On Friday, January 25, 2013 2:03:29 PM UTC+1, rigs wrote:
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>> > And very often their very existence does depend upon going along with
>> > the majority. However, one feature of democracy is that of dissent but
>> > it can be risky esp. if the majority has a mob mentality. When you
>> > think of the average classroom it is obvious that the pattern is to
>> > echo rather than question and the same applies to other areas of life.
>> > It is just as likely that the group can be corrupt so "membership" can
>> > be a doom- ex: Nazis, etc.
>>
>> > On Jan 25, 1:43 am, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > If there is one concept on Earth that has been the absolute bane of
>> > > human existence (besides global elitism), it would have to be the
>> > > concept of the "majority opinion". The moment men began refusing to
>> > > develop their own world views without first asking "What does everyone
>> > > else think?", they set themselves up for an endless future of
>> > > failures. We are, of course, very social beings, and our natures
>> > > drive us to seek those of like mind and spirit in what some might call
>> > > a "tribal imperative". However, this imperative to organize is often
>> > > manipulated by those who understand the psychological mechanisms
>> > > behind it. Oligarchs and tyrants abuse and exploit the inherent
>> > > social natures of the people in order to fool them into abandoning
>> > > their individuality for the sake of the group, or some abstract and
>> > > dishonest ideal. When successful, the organization of a culture
>> > > becomes bitter and twisted, changing from a tribe or a community of
>> > > sovereign individuals, into a nightmare collective of soulless sheep.
>>
>> > > Human beings desperately want to belong, but, they also desperately
>> > > want to understand the environment around them. Often, the desire to
>> > > belong and the desire to know the truth conflict. In some societies,
>> > > in order to be accepted, one must give up on his search for truth and
>> > > avoid eliciting the anger of others. This causes a severe mental and
>> > > emotional disturbance within a population. In order to reconcile
>> > > their conflicting needs within a system that does not nurture their
>> > > quest for transparency, they tend to unconsciously cling to the
>> > > "majority view" as if their very existence depends on it. The idea of
>> > > the majority view or the "mainstream", gives people the sense that
>> > > they are a part of a group, and at the same time, gives them the
>> > > illusion of being informed.
>>
>> > > The above from Zerohedge - is it right? What does it say about our
>> > > general ability to argue rationally? I agree with what is said here -
>> > > yet believe it suggests we need a radical alternative of education as
>> > > we have experienced it.- Hide quoted text -
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|_D Allan
Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
Of course I talk to myself,
Sometimes I need expert advice..
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