Re: Mind's Eye Re: Green Issues (might make some 'green')

Gabby your accountant friend deeds to examine his books as is
forgetting to add in some of his credits like the amount of soil the
plant uses to grow and is not replaced when we harvest that crop.. in
other words his books are out of balance.


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking far and big is one option of going beyond common sense limitations.
> My best friend does that on a much smaller scale for her employer and his
> different companies by doing his book-keeping. Their well-being is firmly
> rooted in interdependency already, no further soil improvement is needed to
> mix the balance up.
>
>
> 2013/2/26 archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
>>
>> Stuff from the UK plants goes to farms - soil improvement. I sense
>> there is plenty of money that could go into such schemes. Despite $1.1
>> billion in pre-tax profits from its US operations in 2012, Facebook
>> didn't pay any federal or state income taxes in the US—in fact it will
>> collect net tax refunds totaling $429 million (owing to some stock
>> option dodge).
>>
>> On 26 Feb, 14:59, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Ah, I see that the English language definitely needs an update for us to
>> > be
>> > able to communicate at - at least - nose level. What you call 'waste
>> > trade'
>> > and ' trade of recyclables' we call 'Wertstoffhandel', which literally
>> > translates, no not 'resource trade', but 'trading with substances of
>> > value'.
>> >
>> > 2013/2/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe seeking
>> > > mutually
>> > > > beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is
>> > > achieved or
>> > > > generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
>> >
>> > > > 2013/2/26 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > >> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually
>> > > >> beneficial
>> > > >> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
>> >
>> > > >> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
>> >
>> > > >> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > >>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated and
>> > > >>> pathogens removed. It was once called night soil here. Quite
>> > > >>> what
>> > > >>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary. My point largely
>> > > >>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how
>> > > >>> many
>> > > >>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan. Fishing gear
>> > > >>> is
>> > > >>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
>> > > >>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't match
>> > > >>> rules
>> > > >>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw back'
>> > > >>> from
>> > > >>> 37% to less than one.
>> >
>> > > >>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh
>> > > >>> > water
>> > > >>> > waste
>> > > >>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the
>> > > >>> > market.
>> >
>> > > >>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> > > >>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about
>> > > >>> > > the
>> > > >>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
>> >
>> > > >>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of
>> > > >>> > > > faecesa
>> > > >>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual
>> > > >>> > > > output
>> > > >>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and
>> > > potassium
>> > > >>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow -
>> > > helpfully
>> > > >>> > > > in
>> > > >>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to
>> > > >>> > > > fertilise
>> > > >>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of
>> > > >>> > > > cereals,
>> > > says
>> > > >>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
>> >
>> > > >>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70 million
>> > > tonnes
>> > > >>> > > > of
>> > > >>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace
>> > > almost 40
>> > > >>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in chemical
>> > > >>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from New
>> > > >>> > > > Scientist.
>> >
>> > > >>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from
>> > > >>> > > > planting a
>> > > >>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large
>> > > >>> > > > sewage
>> > > >>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in India
>> > > >>> > > > -
>> > > they
>> > > >>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers). I wonder how any such
>> > > areas we
>> > > >>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an
>> > > international
>> > > >>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
>> >
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