The language does have a bit of implied effect on how we see it, just flipping a word can change the meaning quite a bit. Not sure if this is cultural, over here commonly there is a bit of division between terminology and it kinda identifies membership of class and profession. This may be exaggerated here in the US, do you find that the terminology of professionals, industry and common language are more modern and universal in Germany gabby? That could offer quite a streamlined and advanced language. It is an interesting point to ponder, it reminds me of when I was trying to get a similar point across with someone who insisted that a broken object was garbage but I couldn't help but see potential usefulness.
I'll have to rustle up the context of my question about mutually beneficial outcomes, as I recall you may have been making a point about rabid individualism (my words).
On 2/26/2013 9:59 AM, gabbydott wrote:
I'll have to rustle up the context of my question about mutually beneficial outcomes, as I recall you may have been making a point about rabid individualism (my words).
On 2/26/2013 9:59 AM, gabbydott wrote:
Ah, I see that the English language definitely needs an update for us to be able to communicate at - at least - nose level. What you call 'waste trade' and ' trade of recyclables' we call 'Wertstoffhandel', which literally translates, no not 'resource trade', but 'trading with substances of value'.--
2013/2/26 Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com>
I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbydott@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe seeking mutually
> beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is achieved or
> generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
>
>
> 2013/2/26 James <ashkashal@gmail.com>
>>
>> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually beneficial
>> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
>>
>>
>> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
>>
>> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated and
>>> pathogens removed. It was once called night soil here. Quite what
>>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary. My point largely
>>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how many
>>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan. Fishing gear is
>>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
>>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't match rules
>>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw back' from
>>> 37% to less than one.
>>>
>>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh water
>>> > waste
>>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the market.
>>> >
>>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about the
>>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
>>> >
>>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of faeces a
>>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual output
>>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium
>>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow - helpfully
>>> > > > in
>>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to fertilise
>>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of cereals, says
>>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
>>> >
>>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70 million tonnes
>>> > > > of
>>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace almost 40
>>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in chemical
>>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from New
>>> > > > Scientist.
>>> >
>>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from planting a
>>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large sewage
>>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in India - they
>>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers). I wonder how any such areas we
>>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an international
>>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
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