Looking far and big is one option of going beyond common sense limitations. My best friend does that on a much smaller scale for her employer and his different companies by doing his book-keeping. Their well-being is firmly rooted in interdependency already, no further soil improvement is needed to mix the balance up.
-- 2013/2/26 archytas <nwterry@gmail.com>
Stuff from the UK plants goes to farms - soil improvement. I sense
there is plenty of money that could go into such schemes. Despite $1.1
billion in pre-tax profits from its US operations in 2012, Facebook
didn't pay any federal or state income taxes in the US—in fact it will
collect net tax refunds totaling $429 million (owing to some stock
option dodge).
> 2013/2/26 Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com>
On 26 Feb, 14:59, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, I see that the English language definitely needs an update for us to be
> able to communicate at - at least - nose level. What you call 'waste trade'
> and ' trade of recyclables' we call 'Wertstoffhandel', which literally
> translates, no not 'resource trade', but 'trading with substances of value'.
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> > I know recycling has to become a major part of our world and life
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> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:> > > 2013/2/26 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
> > > Not sure what exactly I'm replying to, because I do believe seeking
> > mutually
> > > beneficial outcomes is a good thing. The way that 'mutually' is
> > achieved or
> > > generated is the problematic aspect in my view.
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>> > >> 2013/2/25 archytas <nwte...@gmail.com>
> > >> I've been wondering, what was scary about seeking mutually beneficial
> > >> outcomes gabby? Seems I'm a master at the failed followup. :p
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> > >> On 2/25/2013 2:40 PM, gabbydott wrote:
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> > >> Oh, yes, that's of course a good point!
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> > >>> We have large scale versions in the UK - the muck is treated and
> > >>> pathogens removed. It was once called night soil here. Quite what
> > >>> precautions are taken in India is a bit scary. My point largely
> > >>> concerns the possibility of a 40% fertiliser reduction and how many
> > >>> more examples could be drawn into an economic plan. Fishing gear is
> > >>> being changed to do less damage to the sea bed and reduce the
> > >>> ludicrous amount of stock dumped at sea because it doesn't match rules
> > >>> on what can be landed - pilot projects have reduced 'throw back' from
> > >>> 37% to less than one.
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> > >>> On 25 Feb, 11:12, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > Interesting. I've had this issue categorized under "the fresh water
> > >>> > waste
> > >>> > in toilets". There are some much greener solutions on the market.
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> > >>> > 2013/2/25 rigs <rigs...@gmail.com>
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> > >>> > > Isn't this called "night soil"- no pun intended. What about the
> > >>> > > spreading of disease via human/animal waste?
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> > >>> > > On Feb 24, 1:43 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > > > You produce some 500 litres of urine and 50 kilograms of faecesa
> > >>> > > > year. Besides the water and organic carbon, your annual output
> > >>> > > > contains around 10 kilograms of nitrogen, phosphorus and
> > potassium
> > >>> > > > compounds, the three main nutrients plants need to grow -
> > helpfully
> > >>> > > > in
> > >>> > > > roughly the correct proportions. This is sufficient to fertilise
> > >>> > > > plants that would produce more than 200 kilograms of cereals,
> > says
> > >>> > > > Christine Werner of the German development agency GIZ.
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> > >>> > > > Scale that up and the world's population excretes 70 million
> > tonnes
> > >>> > > > of
> > >>> > > > nutrients annually. Applied to fields, this could replace
> > almost 40
> > >>> > > > per cent of the 176 million tonnes of nutrients in chemical
> > >>> > > > fertilisers used by the world's farmers in 2011 - from New
> > >>> > > > Scientist.
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> > >>> > > > There are loads of ways to redeploy human waste - from planting a
> > >>> > > > banana tree so it roots under the latrine hut to large sewage
> > >>> > > > treatment (an entrepreneurial solution can be found in India -
> > they
> > >>> > > > are know locally as honey-suckers). I wonder how any such
> > areas we
> > >>> > > > could identify and get into action projects under an
> > international
> > >>> > > > project system run on an enterprise basis?
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