I don't know if this is good or bad, but i hear that you haven't just heard about mirror neurons, that this is a relatively consciously made up construct, a construct with intent or purpose. Also it sounds strange when you say that this neurological mechanism is strange (to you). That's where my "parallel mirror neurons" come into play, i compare what you say with what i have heard you saying before and add the info as well as my judgement on what you say to my internal "Virtualization" of you. The leap is more of a constant exercise of differentiating between you and me while operating on the virtualization of each participant, so to speak. Does that somehow make sense to you?
Of course, I could go back to the group website and search for the real data on what you have been saying on neurological mechanisms. But this would be a completely new project. I'd have to go back and construct a new image with my knowledge of now.
But since you are still alive and still communicating, I find it much easier and more purposeful to keep on listening to what you say, to respond to it, and to rely on you saying, if you disagree. Not a good position for me to be in, more of a survival strategy. Now that's worth a leap into rethinking mode. ;)
Of course, I could go back to the group website and search for the real data on what you have been saying on neurological mechanisms. But this would be a completely new project. I'd have to go back and construct a new image with my knowledge of now.
But since you are still alive and still communicating, I find it much easier and more purposeful to keep on listening to what you say, to respond to it, and to rely on you saying, if you disagree. Not a good position for me to be in, more of a survival strategy. Now that's worth a leap into rethinking mode. ;)
2013/3/20 James <ashkashal@gmail.com>
My response was mostly a parallel narrative, my thinking on a personal level is when does a system of components transcend the boudaries of automata and begin to engage in the operations of intent. Where does gene fitness adaptation break loose into something perceiving, interacting, understanding and mastering? I have heard that our ability to reflect and interact on an intimate level arises from a strange neurological mechanism called mirror neurons. If this is something like the virtualization technologies we have been building in technology then with a bit more scale and pondering our science may make the leap logarithmically.
On 3/18/2013 8:15 PM, James wrote:
I see this sometimes too Andrew, and we learn how our internal systems and culture drive and shape us, so we can create. We model from the simplest sensory stimuli on to reflections on the nature of our existence and what could be in a simultaneous simulation of reality. Our world can be full of intent, or I should say we experience it thus due to our capacity arising from our nature and drawing parables in the mist. It makes me wonder how many levels of abstraction, simulation and foresight are necessary to represent the human element. That minds like ours are derived from nature is astonishing and awe inspiring, that we reach so far and yet innocence is so fragile, the experience of awareness is far from today's science I think. Our synthetic counterparts or robots will have to wait.
On 3/13/2013 5:35 AM, andrew vecsey wrote:
Perhaps we are born into a world filled with negative aspects rather than positive aspects so as to give us a direction. We are born small so that we can grow. We are born ignorant so that we could know. We are born with negative aspects so that we could acquire positive ones.
On Monday, January 28, 2013 12:11:39 PM UTC+1, andrew vecsey wrote:
Why do so many of us remember negative feelings easier than
positive ones. Pain over pleasure. Bad news over good news. Why
does "bad" overshadow "good", immorality over morality, despair
over hope, pessimism over optimism. Why does hate appear to be
more powerful than love? Why is greed louder than generosity. Why
is destruction of war so much faster than the building power of
peace. Why can one little lie destroy a lifetime of trust. Why are
lies more influential than truth. It all seems so one sided. Why
is that?
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