Funny. I was just musing that social media is related to the thumbs up/
down of the Colosseum of ancient Rome! :-)
On Mar 29, 6:28 am, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, the credits for pointing out the possibility/likelihood of being the
> subject/object of distortions go to Rigs! Omitting the predicate might have
> evoked the feeling you could have missed something, but no, you're right,
> there was no point.
>
> The "Oh shit!" pedagogic method is called "black pedagogy", not to be
> mistaken with "black humor", or with the connections to the past that Rigs
> draws.
>
> Hey Neil, how about "New Shades Of Black" as a book title for the book I
> have pre-ordered from you? Ok, I admit, I'm not really waiting, I have
> already started reading. :)
>
> 2013/3/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> > One approach that I've rarely caught in a class is a teacher taking a no
> > BS approach to the material. It seems useful to have a frank historical
> > perspective on what motivates the theories or breaches the old paradigms,
> > perhaps a creative excursion into cultural universals. Maybe picking a few
> > wacky examples of applied economics and let them get a good laugh, then
> > show parallels with their culture to get them thinking.
>
> > One example is ancient civilizations using up natural resources, then
> > looking over the forecasted impact of the US aquifers bottoming out.
> > Suddenly the conservationists don't sound as alarmist, is there a word for
> > the "Oh shit!" pedagogic method? No offense but economics sounds boring in
> > itself, but your thoughts here make it sound interesting. Are you allowed
> > to hint to the class when you think something is little more than an
> > academic publishing circle jerk?
>
> > Hmm, what you've said about 'distorting filters' has me wondering if I
> > missed gabby's point. You lost a book and I was born.. :D
>
> > On 3/27/2013 7:28 PM, archytas wrote:
>
> >> I've just read a book that says neo-classical economics is just an
> >> ideology forced down our throats by the vile rich - actually the whole
> >> book probably says less than that as the authors won't call a spade a
> >> spade. Gabby seems to have read he book too. It came 30 years too
> >> late. I could have missed all those research methods classes and
> >> worried less about feeling economics was a load of junk that could
> >> only make sense to Monty Python's dead Norwegian Blue parrot. Perhaps
> >> economists have just discovered the archive of my lecture notes, lost
> >> on a bus in Lancaster in 1983? I seem to remember they advocated
> >> swapping one set of distorting filters for another and mentioning the
> >> term paradigm a lot. Big data was barred as positivist - a term I
> >> loosely translated as 'guileless scientist like you Neil'. You had to
> >> call data 'capta' to be in with the crowd that mistakenly thought it
> >> was the in crowd, socially constructed facts from thin air I
> >> interpreted as a source for green hydrocarbon production and taught me
> >> to spell phenomenological.
>
> >> On Mar 25, 10:02 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> The Big Picture via distorting filters onto Big Data?
>
> >>> 2013/3/24 andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com>
>
> >>> I do not think that we lie to our self so much as that we only see/hear
> >>>> what we want to see/hear. Also we tend to say what we think the other
> >>>> persons wants to hear or say things to hurt other people.
> >>>> On Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:46:03 AM UTC+1, rigs wrote:
>
> >>>>> I am more interested in why we lie to ourselves, suppress reality and
> >>>>> snarl logic in our brains. There are life and death moments of
> >>>>> survival, I suppose, but much of our potential is engineered by family
> >>>>> and culture in order to achieve some sort of control and order. Even
> >>>>> rebels are often little more than a reaction. Pretense and etiquette
> >>>>> are often the same thing.//I must have "lost" my thought re "big
> >>>>> data"/"Big Daddy? as an organizer of human knowledge versus the
> >>>>> present scatterings and specialties.// Yes- I agree most have a gut
> >>>>> reaction- but so do other life forms- it's a survival mechanism. But
> >>>>> it can be distorted.
> >>>>> On Mar 24, 4:12 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Faked enthusiasm is as easy to spot as fake love. It is like a built
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> like a lie detector that god created us with. Sounds like a good way
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> detect lying on the internet. You can call it "god" instead of "big
> >>>>>> brother".
> >>>>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:08:39 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote:
> >>>>>> .....................
>
> >>>>>>> Quite what junk DNA is has raised a big recent controversy - gist at
> >>>>>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/****science/2013/feb/24/**<http://www.guardian.co.uk/**science/2013/feb/24/**>
>
> >>>>>> scientists-attacked-ove.<http:**//www.guardian.co.uk/science/**
> >>>>> 2013/feb/24/scientists-**attacked-ove<http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/feb/24/scientists-attacked-ove>
> >>>>> .>..
>
> >>>>>> I agree with rigs that the term is unfortunate.
> >>>>>>> ........but I could feign 'enthusiasm' ..
> >>>>>>> ........' to detect resistance! Even this
> >>>>>>> .....no employees dumb enough to support
> >>>>>>> excellence, ......
> >>>>>>> if we spent out time pointing such devices at
> >>>>>>> each other though rigs! Watch out for the first one minute dating
> >>>>>>> agency providing such! Arghh" .
> >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 1:06 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Junk is an unfortunate adjective- it sounds too random. My guess is
> >>>>>>>> that further selection takes place in this area which selects the
> >>>>>>>> strongest marker- or whatever it's called- such in the color of
>
> >>>>>>> eyes,
>
> >>>>>> hair, and other characteristics. There are also generational skips
>
> >>>>>>> in
>
> >>>>>> play. I have noted other strange echoes of a missing parent such as
> >>>>>>>> the style of laughter which is a surprise and so many other
> >>>>>>>> recognitions. At any rate, we are just beginning to sort through
>
> >>>>>>> the
>
> >>>>>> data in this one area as in others- I think it is called "big data"
> >>>>>>>> which will overcome the religious notion of "sins of the father"
>
> >>>>>>> stuff
>
> >>>>>> as well as curses and fate and will hopefully allow a more rational
> >>>>>>>> and postive approach/life choices for each unique individual. But
>
> >>>>>>> it
>
> >>>>>> will also cause mischief.
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 5:16 am, andrew vecsey <andrewvec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Not all DNA code for protein. We have non coding DNA called "junk
>
> >>>>>>>> DNA"
>
> >>>>>> that
>
> >>>>>>>> ensure we are all unique. While normal DNA codes for protein to
>
> >>>>>>>> make,
>
> >>>>>> for
>
> >>>>>>>> example a "nose", junk DNA ensures that we grow a nose that
>
> >>>>>>>> "looks"
>
> >>>>>> like a
>
> >>>>>>>> mixture of our father`s and our mother`s nose.
> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:36:39 AM UTC+1, Ash wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> My thoughts didn't include "junk DNA", my thinking on such
>
> >>>>>>>>> terms are
>
> >>>>>> mixed in that some genes may not be useful or represent just
>
> >>>>>>>>> another
>
> >>>>>> failure point, but also that the supposed junk in one set of
> >>>>>>>>>> circumstances may prove quite beneficial in others like a
>
> >>>>>>>>> backup, an
>
> >>>>>> alternate development chain or complex interdependencies we
>
> >>>>>>>>> haven't
>
> >>>>>> observed yet. You may have a connection in mind I haven't
>
> >>>>>>>>> gleaned.
>
> >>>>>> Developing the market sounds similar but I am trying to root
>
> >>>>>>>>> out an
>
> >>>>>> aspect of this that doesn't require jumping to a premature
>
> >>>>>>>>> conclusion,
>
> >>>>>>>> such as in 'intelligent design', materialism, rigid ontologies
>
> >>>>>>>>> or
>
> >>>>>> realism. Thanks for helping me explore here gabby, lets hope
>
> >>>>>>>>> some
>
> >>>>>> form
>
> >>>>>>>> emerges in expression. :)
> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2013 3:57 AM, gabbydott wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Now that sounds more like you. :)
> >>>>>>>>>>> What you are describing or asking I now
>
> >>>>>>>>>> understand/interpret/hear
>
> >>>>>> in
>
> >>>>>>>> terms of what I know about what they are trying to find out
>
> >>>>>>>>>> about
>
> >>>>>> "junk DNA". Its purpose/function/added value. As for what you
>
> >>>>>>>>>> describe
>
> >>>>>>>> as another way, I know/experience/see this in what the
>
> >>>>>>>>>> companies
>
> >>>>>> describe as "developing the market". We are still on topic,
>
> >>>>>>>>>> aren't
>
> >>>>>> we?
>
> >>>>>>>> 2013/3/21 James <ashk...@gmail.com <javascript:> <mailto:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> ashk...@gmail.com <javascript:>>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I have a feeling you are being charitable with me gabby
>
> >>>>>>>>>> (cringe).
>
> >>>>>>>> What you say makes sense, and should add that the intent
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I
>
> >>>>>> refer
>
> >>>>>>>> to is in excess of that needed for mere gene survival
>
> >>>>>>>>>> fitness.
>
> >>>>>> In
>
> >>>>>>>> that sense I consider the adaptations as simulations and
>
> >>>>>>>>>> the
>
> >>>>>> excess as breaking the barriers of meta-simulation, or in
>
> >>>>>>>>>> another
>
> >>>>>>>> way, not just running within time but operating on it by
>
> >>>>>>>>>> taking
>
> >>>>>>>> advantage of the rules and finding ways to bend them. Now
>
> >>>>>>>>>> it
>
> >>>>>> is my
>
> >>>>>>>> turn to ask, does that make sense [to anyone]?
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2013 3:01 AM, gabbydott wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if this is good or bad, but i hear
>
> ...
>
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