Re: Mind's Eye money question

I do not think it is resentment,,   I was raised to live life morally with out harming others,,  I personally do not like being ripped of by people whose extreme interpretation of morality  allow them to steal and harm others without apparent conscious then make all kinds of excuses blaming others for the poverty and harm they have created..

The moral guideline of "Do No Harm" is often violated justified by the comment it is legal..  a good example of Monsanto paying for a law to be passed so the can violate the morality of Do No harm by saying well it is legal and we have done nothing wrong.

The problem with these arguments is it seems  people are justifying their violations of morality by saying it is alright because it is not illegal.  To me if there is a commitment to morality which is required for the "Soul" to pass its exam of humanism ...   justifying immorality by it is legal..  well good luck on your spiritual development..  When you have to justify your view  well you need to carefully look at what you are justifying..


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 5:06 AM, rigs <rigs117@gmail.com> wrote:
I think resentment is a basic cause of envy between the classes. But
some are smarter, industrious, creative, etc. You can't equalize those
qualities unless you re-do DNA or live in a society of robots. You
have a media that promotes a certain mode of success- mostly built on
wealth and possessions. You have fractured families due to the social
movements of the last century. Yet, I do see progress also.//I see "Do
no harm" as don't make matters worse through ignorance or arrogance.
Not sure the Ideal is a human possibility.

On Jun 4, 2:38 pm, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it is extremely difficult to stay within guidelines..I am sure the
> guidelines of "Do no harm" is among the most difficult ans on the verge of
> impossibility..   the problem lies within meditation of the variations
> there of and how does one balance the center line without drifting from
> side to side
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> Hypocrite "No" not when a person is striving to accomplish the ideal
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> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:46 PM, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If one gains a mistrust of ambition too well it can stifle their degrees
> > of movement. I want to read Frederick Douglass, I've tried before but felt
> > compromised when the inner fire posed a challenge to my discipline. It
> > wasn't the words on the page that lights my soul ablaze (if I may) but the
> > chains missing from the depiction of our lady. I know the beauty Allan
> > speaks of truth, but I dare not touch or mar it, for many she is deaf and
> > blind, for some a gasp of air while struggling with the undertow, a crack
> > in the world (ditto).
>
> > Then, all the emotion and time comes to naught if we don't choose. Wrong
> > choices for the right reasons doesn't a leader make, and where does
> > leadership come from if not that fire sometimes. A great crime it seems is
> > that many see and don't believe, feel and do nothing. Don't assume I'm
> > being "a" hypocrite, I am "The".
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> > On 6/4/2013 8:17 AM, Molly wrote:
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> >> well said, Rigs.  Very well said.
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> >> On Jun 3, 11:32 pm, rigs <rigs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>> I regard blind Justice two ways: to make judgments free from bias and
> >>> influence and to hide the tears that must flow watching human
> >>> behaviors.
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> >>> On Jun 3, 12:53 am, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>  Justice is also blind of skill, manipulation, corruption, nepotism and
> >>>> many fine traits that sociopaths will deploy in pursuit of fairness (as
> >>>> in love and war). You really can learn a lot about people in how they
> >>>> exercise power and authority, especially from beneath the cloud. Someone
> >>>> gave me a sideways glance the other day when they mentioned the
> >>>> importance of loyalty and I am glad they did, I might not have pieced
> >>>> together with such clarity that some people are out looking for dogs,
> >>>> whereas I tend to differ on fairness and am looking for the genuine and
> >>>> authentic. On bearing crosses and turning cheek it seems I would do well
> >>>> to follow gabby and RP's advice, a long lesson of mine.
> >>>> Thanks Molly for the great tips lately, it is meshing well with my
> >>>> better foot! :)
> >>>> On 6/2/2013 10:13 PM, rigs wrote:
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> >>>>> Part of the problem is the tradition of using warfare and conquest as
> >>>>> an opportunity to rape and pillage and amass slave labor and
> >>>>> resources. And business can be a form of warfare. Sometimes justice
> >>>>> happens slowly outside the courts like a dark cloud. Lawyers are
> >>>>> despied until you really, really need one. And doctors have the
> >>>>> repuation of burying their mistakes and dislike the fees for
> >>>>> malpractice insurance. Look at the problems females have in the
> >>>>> military and business world reporting sexual harassment. No wonder
> >>>>> Justice is blind!
> >>>>> On Jun 2, 8:02 pm, James <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>>>> It sounds like a challenge fit for one of those legendary wise leaders
> >>>>>> who presents a challenge and distributes the loss according to just
> >>>>>> deserts. But I can't help but wonder what a just challenge would be
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> the plaintiff, and what type of arbitration would be sufficient. It
> >>>>>> is a
> >>>>>> puzzle Allan, is the theft held among one generation or multiple, what
> >>>>>> interests are held against it currently?
> >>>>>> On 6/2/2013 1:48 PM, Allan H wrote:
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> >>>>>>> oops  I mean the wealth is no longer considered stolen and has become
> >>>>>>> acceptable..  even when it is widely know the source is theft..
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>> <mailto:allanh1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>       how can money that was stolen be past down to the next
> >>>>>>>       generation,,  it seems that it becomes perfectly acceptable and
> >>>>>>>       the wealth is considered no longer acceptable.
> >>>>>>>       Yet if i buy a painting that was stolen still belongs to the
> >>>>>>>       family it was stolen from?  It seems it is applied
> >>>>>>> selectively..
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