I agree, but in the meantime you could spread the story and truth
through knowledge of how their tactics work and contribute to positive
reshaping by finding alternate scenarios and using the bad apples as
points of the moral. In each drop of a gentle rain is a tiny fierce
spartan, unleash heaven! Or something like that, who knows maybe people
will start coming forward at random, if it doesn't make those on the
take feel bad they'll become paranoid as hell and maybe quit it. It
could become a signal, or meme, people coming out on themselves because
they know something and want it to change. Strange and naive logic, heh? :)
On 7/9/2013 3:29 PM, Gabby Thiede wrote:
> I don't believe in a corruption gene, corrupted genes probably works
> though. Not getting involved in trouble is surely a good advice when
> not wanting to do harm.
>
>
> Am 09.07.2013 um 19:33 schrieb Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com
> <mailto:allanh1946@gmail.com>>:
>
>> I think there is a lot more corruption than we want to face.. I know
>> where there is some low level corruption and my wife tells me to lay
>> low and not get involved and she is right; ; In reality I am a guest
>> here..I do not need trouble.. in the US I probably would cause
>> trouble,,, there I have a much better idea of how to do it. and where
>> my supporet base(s) are.
>> here I am not quite sure..
>> how does a person create a (semi) covert database for track these
>> corrupt people ,, then the other question is where
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Gabby Thiede <gabbydott@gmail.com
>> <mailto:gabbydott@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> "We must have some records on the financiers and corrupt
>> politicians but this was always beyond my pay grade. " Yep,
>> linking the "we" to "my pay grade" sounds natural in this context
>> here. Just like throwing your hat in the ring to become Mod God
>> here. I worry more about journalists having to turn corrupt than
>> science or police people.
>>
>> Am 09.07.2013 um 02:22 schrieb archytas <nwterry@gmail.com
>> <mailto:nwterry@gmail.com>>:
>>
>>> The bible on white collar crime was written by Sutherland in
>>> 1940. The high level con is that financial services make money.
>>> I did surveillance and undercover handling - the first lesson
>>> was that it was very expensive, the second that it rarely
>>> produced value for money (one conviction for five or six
>>> operations) and the third you couldn't get warrants to follow
>>> money. We must have some records on the financiers and corrupt
>>> politicians but this was always beyond my pay grade. The vast
>>> majority of the techniques I did get to see left me in no doubt
>>> we could turn the focus onto corruption but even tracking
>>> ordinary criminal money they were denied to us. The criminality
>>> in finance is very obvious. The first claim that money can make
>>> money is almost the claim it will breed of you leave it in a
>>> shoe-box. It seems equally obvious that giving up making things
>>> and not collecting tax is as dumb-as.
>>> None of our old industrial cities has recovered - the whole of
>>> Wales (about 4 million people) became a public sector adjunct.
>>> You don't need hindsight. There were warnings long before
>>> Reagan-Thatcher. Even now we are hoping for recovery and there
>>> is little talk that what has happened is very like the way we
>>> once tried to subsidise our old industries. I'm pretty sure
>>> many of our municipalities and banks are broke and pretending to
>>> be going concerns. London is trying to get Euro-Remnimbi
>>> business much as it did with the Euro-Dollar trade in the 50's -
>>> so I think the City is broke.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 29 June 2013 21:57:58 UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>>>
>>> If God did not exist – people would invent one! The
>>> development of
>>> human civilization requires mechanisms promoting cooperation
>>> and
>>> social order. One of these mechanisms is based on the idea that
>>> everything we do is seen and judged by God – bad deeds will be
>>> punished, while good ones will be rewarded (or was this
>>> Santa?). The Information Age has
>>> now fueled the dream that God-like omniscience and
>>> omnipotence can
>>> be created by man.
>>>
>>> This is an interesting way of thinking about information
>>> systems - full free paper at
>>> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.3271.pdf
>>>
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>> Of course I talk to myself,
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