Re: Mind's Eye Re: Who are the spooks?

That is a good question, nothing comes to mind other than the media
versions but on pondering I'd say the ability to navigate independently
like a consultant gathering intelligence for supervisors and
coordinating leverage between keymen. Coordination and leverage are the
tools at that level I think, developing relationships with useful
individuals and finding ways to solve problems in interesting ways? I
could envision it as a big players economy with tough rules and some
wicked sharp dogs running the table. My fingers are too busy keeping the
boat floating to be sticking into those pies but I have tried to run the
odds that my skills could be useful in something. Poor Mel in Conspiracy
Theory comes to mind and I find the idea of being strapped to a chair
for twenty hours at a time watching flashing pictures for where paths
meet a bit troubling, so I'll stick to my random mostly useless flashes
of inspiration for now. What was the first rule of 'fight club' again? :p

On 7/9/2013 3:28 PM, archytas wrote:
> More than 95% of refereed academic material is junk. I'd love some
> software to sort that for me! I know there a filters that spot
> relevant mobile conversations - since 1930 in a way. I can't make
> head nor tail of Snowden - seems a total irrelevance other than in
> telling us there is nowhere to hide if we blab.
>
> What I was wondering is whether anyone has ideas on who are spooks
> work for. They don't seem to be doing anything on the financial
> crisis but must be involved. I guess they can't reveal sources and
> methods and keep them effective and protected - yet SIS was hardly an
> early warning system in 9/11 and other bombings and certainly not on
> the financial crisis. I'd have set them on the banks needing bailout
> and I do wonder whether some of the fines being levied have come via
> such information. In camera deals are typical of SIS. I believe we
> are subject to a shadow government to which our politicians are
> subservient - but to say this is little more than 'Yes Minister' and
> public choice theory.
>
> On Saturday, 6 July 2013 18:47:21 UTC+1, archytas wrote:
>
> I'd be interested to know what our general opinion is on who our
> secret services are and what they do. I had some passing
> experience with a few, usually in military context. The standard
> joke went a bit like this:
>
> 1. Who are the KOSBs? = The Kings Own Scottish Borderers.
> 2. Who are the QOSBs? = The Queens Own Scottish Borderers.
> The British Army had many OSBS.
> 3. So what do we call Intelligence? = LOSBs.
> 4. And what does that stand for? = Loads of Stupid Bastards.
>
> I was on many futile and utterly barking undercover ops that were
> nothing like James Bond. There are some comedies by Charlie Owen
> that get nearer the mark. What are our guesses on what SIS is and
> who it serves?
>
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