Re: Mind's Eye Re: Search Engine As God

I know i am weird ,, I do not understand how people in trust can steal from those who trusted them.   Maybe there should be an intense investigation and recover all the money from those who stole it...  take all their property,  bank accounts, stock accounts pension accounts including their social security.. no matter where it is.  and those that benefited form the criminal activity be forced to pay it all back with interests  say 12%  to insure quick repayment..

it will never happen,,  there needs to be laws passed that those that benefit from  illegal activity have to repay and replace what they benefited from.

not sure how it should be stated.

On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Molly <mollyb363@gmail.com> wrote:

I will always wonder why the feds have been ensconced in Detroit for a decade, yet the city financial corruption did not come to light until the state appointed a financial manager.  The prior mayor belongs in prison and the I think the current mayor has done much to bring business and integrity back to the city.  And yet so much, like the pension funds that were raided for so many years, is just now coming to light.  The hottest potato. After ten years, the feds are just now bringing charges against the city pension raiders, players from both public and private sectors. Billions have been lost and the pensioners will be the losers (not unlike the housing and hedge fund bubble fiasco on private retirement accounts)  The current political system will not work here anymore, probably the tip of the iceberg in the US.  Some kind of greater regional system will likely emerge, and it will be interesting to see what comes of it.  At this rate, the indictments will be forthcoming for another decade...

Financial transparency assumes there is someone watching that cares.

On Thursday, July 4, 2013 5:01:51 PM UTC-4, archytas wrote:

It's a old argument from Jeremy Bentham and Michel Foucault - about the panoptican, a prison designed so the guards can see everything that goes on.  When asked who would supervise the guards, Bentham is supposed to have said that the interested public would do that scrutiny.  We are doing a pretty bad job over Manning and Snowden.  

I'd see the biggest difference between such a socio-technical system and god as most of us have the notion (no doubt differently) is access by other people, though it may not quite be like that in much priest-mullah related religion.

I think we could have some good debate on transparency.  I see the idea of transparent finance very good, Big Brother very bad (or trivial on television).  But it isn't even this simple, as financial transparency makes a lot of other stuff transparent.  I would have liked an extradition treaty with Spain when I was a cop - but I'd also want Snowden to find asylum.  I like the idea of world peace, but don't want that to lead to a bunch of rabid fundamentalists taking over because they are the only ones to keep guns.  A lot of Greek argument ended this way - aporia - no way out.

On Saturday, 29 June 2013 21:57:58 UTC+1, archytas wrote:

If God did not exist – people would invent one! The development of 

human civilization requires mechanisms promoting cooperation and 

social order. One of these mechanisms is based on the idea that 

everything we do is seen and judged by God – bad deeds will be 

punished, while good ones will be rewarded (or was this Santa?). The Information Age has 

now fueled the dream that God-like omniscience and omnipotence can 

be created by man.

This is an interesting way of thinking about information systems - full free paper at http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.3271.pdf

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