With a little desperation and a little intrigue at the proposition of
clarity, not a requirement from where I stand Molly. Ten or twenty years
doesn't seem so long ago, the meeting of now with then would have been
catastrophic, so I must accept that barriers serve a function even if
the lines have seemed arbitrary. I've tried to build a moral spiritual
framework that reflects the universe I've been acquainted with and
subjected my experiences to endless scrutiny but have had to set it
mostly aside in order to operate and function, so the universe comes
back one day with an answer. "I have considered your request for clarity
in whether you are alone in your experiences and whether you are
delusional. Considering your dedication but inability to grasp what a
gift your life is, your challenges seen as failures before
opportunities, the answer to both is in your favor, as you suspected.
However, the form of this is going to hurt, responsibility to finding
truth will compound, the stakes just got serious my friend. Lets see you
set this aside now, go figure it out. (with a smile)" Guess one gets
used to it, I suppose? It probably seems so big because because the
questions have dominated my thirty-short existence for the most of it
and haven't found much guidance, but I left that enlightented experience
chanting a f- word mantra for a bit.
Pardon my indulgence. I am interested in this 'paradox' you've been
talking about and a few of your insights/experiences and have a couple
observations of my own, very open to input. What I meant by 'each within
all' is that all of the other aspects are sort of folded up within each
where they might be sort of personalities that emerge or an infinitely
reflective bubble, it leaves me with the image of a straight line
(changeless) at that point and the only relevant difference is my
shifting focus (the change). Not sure where to go from there except
trying to integrate what views I gain in it into moral guidance (of a
sort) without building a fantasy or myths, which have a whole large
playground to explore outside this matter or subsumed within. I seem to
narrate spatially, hope it translates well. :)
I am unsure about spirit and time, and don't have much that I trust to
be free of fantasy, and not at all a comparison to other views. But
concerning people and time I think we are drawn into or around areas in
a subtle mental manner around a range from days to a few weeks. Don't
ask how many ranges I've cooked up or how, it's ugly but there is little
information out there. :p If there is a reason we are here now I would
like to find it, pretty common stuff just weirdified for taste prefs.
On 7/13/2013 8:28 AM, Molly wrote:
> I think, what you describe, Ash, happens all the time at the soul
> level where we share our soul experience collectively. I have had a
> few rare experiences in my life where what I share at the soul level I
> am conscious of. Reason, during those times, operates under a
> different formula, as mind is engaged but standard forms of logic
> suspended. The truth as I see it is, we share on that level all the
> time - beyond the measure of time. Perhaps, we can let go of our
> finite limitations, or at least not recognize them as restricting in
> any way, by recognizing both (so paradoxically all) of our aspects.
>
> I find this reasonable. I realize that others may not.
>
> I had a friend, who passed away one year on my birthday at age 50, who
> was a genius at bringing others to the realization of what occurs at
> our shared soul experience. I miss her. Recognizing what comes into
> your awareness as part of a greater whole can only occur with shared
> expression. We realize how what we experience fits into the
> experience of the group when everyone is communicating their view. I
> think it is one of the reasons this group has remained important to
> the members. At levels seen and unseen, we continue to share the
> "real stuff"
>
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:34:07 AM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
> Trust seems like a strong barrier to the future of a very open
> society,
> even as we write some of us are making a conscious decision to expose
> vulnerabilities that may be used by some unknown adversary. Just
> participating in everyday life in the slightest fashion can open more
> potential dangers or opportunity for it (intentional or not). It is a
> dilemma that modern society pretends to be ignorant of for
> performance
> reasons, but to achieve God-like potential we will have to resolve
> such
> security compromises in the technical arena. I like to think within a
> half century we will be able to link minds for the pursuit of common
> goals and very rapidly contribute individual capacity for experience,
> expertise and intuitions (probably in realtime only for that, not
> stored
> in any fashion) in groups where multiple vectors can be explored and
> shared in groups as easily as we can navigate an online strategy game
> today and coordinate our efforts. For instance if I am struggling
> with
> something emotionally my mind could reach out for compatible and
> experienced individuals to help develop a better comprehension of the
> problem at a far greater rate than muggling through and possibly
> dragging it along. I imagine that the rate of communication in that
> scenario would reduce latency to nearly nil and multiply the
> cognitive
> potential of small groups by an unimaginable amount. There is the
> question of building up to that point and technology is beginning to
> integrate many facets of the real world in ways that blur the
> boundary.
> I would love to experiment with the interfacing portion of the
> equation!
>
> It is very rare that I look to the web for an answer, usually it
> is for
> knowledge to use in finding an answer or a better question, less
> disappointment that way. ;-)
>
> On 6/29/2013 4:57 PM, archytas wrote:
> > If God did not exist � people would invent one! The
> development of
> > human civilization requires mechanisms promoting cooperation and
> > social order. One of these mechanisms is based on the idea that
> > everything we do is seen and judged by God � bad deeds will be
> > punished, while good ones will be rewarded (or was this Santa?).
> The
> > Information Age has
> > now fueled the dream that God-like omniscience and omnipotence can
> > be created by man.
> >
> > This is an interesting way of thinking about information systems -
> > full free paper at
> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.3271.pdf
> <http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.3271.pdf>
> >
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