meaning in life. That seems a universal pattern- to me. It helps
explain modern alienation- to me. Well- technological advances us to
robots and drones, doesn't it? I think that's our dilemma.
On Jan 21, 1:18 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hah, that's a humorous way to see it. I haven't delved into the
> specifics of the claim but two things stand out to me: that a diet
> increasingly reliant upon carbohydrates over protein which our brains
> seem to be heavily reliant upon, and how our brains are used in our
> cultural environment (not US specific) since the agricultural
> revolution. The prefrontal cortex and cognitive development I think
> were the precursors to this, it was just a matter of time but I think
> the human brain naturally evolved an extremely high intuitive capacity
> for social relations, and tribal peoples I think implement that
> capacity to a greater degree. In an animist world (natural to
> tribal/our ancestors and children) the world is full of these
> relations, full of life. If we leave the context of modern society we
> see a world with infinite potential for complex interrelationships,
> imagine a mind brought into that world with underlying cultural roles
> that integrate all those sources of experience. This is not something
> easy for us to grasp I think, and is often dismissed.
>
> Not that I'm especially privy to romantic notions like the noble
> savage, if I am saying anything it is that we've left something behind
> and I think it haunts us, perhaps there is a developmental capacity
> that we've skipped when we jumped on board because the two worldviews
> are so at odds, as they seem mutually antagonistic for coexistence
> purposes if on the point of resource exploitation alone, though
> history makes plain what happens to tribal cultures in the path of
> industry. Sorry to be so cryptic, it seems that we are missing
> something I can't point to. But it becomes clearer if you run the
> narrative, our timeline seems terribly skewed, something we should be
> working to address. Especially now that our technological innovations
> are reaching such maturity that we will be able to redefine the human
> condition en masse. Funny, hasn't that always been the promise of
> innovation-
>
> Lost my thoughts somewhere.. I didn't know Shaman was a Russian word, neat.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I hope america gets over its shrinking brain syndrome.. some of the peoples
> > brain must be the size of a pea right now,,(lol ... Must have been a
> > great prophet in my youth who came up with the term pea brain -- then
> > researchers saying it would be several hundred years but that we were headed
> > that direction ) ah the prophets of doom (see i told you so)
>
> > Shaman is a russian term term and not and indian term it seem they
> > are classified by what and how they serve the tribe.
>
> > Yes I agree the US is paying the price for its arrogance (saying that I know
> > I am talking about myself too).. I hear that liberty for security.. well I
> > think that the US is too blinded by corporate greed and spin to see the
> > truth.. and they are being spoon feed little by little losing both their
> > liberty and security;;
> > Allan
>
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 12:18 AM, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> We are paying dearly for our arrogance Allan, you know what they about
> >> those who sacrifice liberty for security. Our scientists are
> >> explaining the fact that our brains are shrinking with reassuring
> >> statements on progress and efficiency. Just transpose that with Neil's
> >> position on those terms and the marching rhythm of our cultural myths
> >> stops dead. I believe a Lakota shaman called Lame Deer put it more
> >> poetically. There are many things you won't find written, if you
> >> consider the purpose of the shaman to the tribe it is no surprise, and
> >> I believe explaining it as ignorance is kinda ironic. ;-)
>
> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Native american beliefs are earth based and a living world the concept
> >> > of
> >> > mother earth.. the western based concepts really do not fit any of the
> >> > developed western ideas and Ideals.
>
> >> > Within the beliefs there is great power and energy, I have
> >> > some experience with friends but am at a loss as to explain it. My own
> >> > experience most are of both sides I think with only a couple being
> >> > clearly
> >> > one sided. Native american beliefs are really not written down , nor
> >> > are
> >> > they for sale, so I have been told.
> >> > Allan
>
> >> > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> Hello Allan, I don't know much about native American belief system,
> >> >> but I think that constructing our own belief system is an open ended
> >> >> process, however, if we don't have a solid frame of reference, our
> >> >> minds and passions will take us in so many directions and who's to say
> >> >> what is wrong or right. For me, monotheism is a rational conclusion
> >> >> for my search for the true faith, supplemented by the multiple
> >> >> revelations that humans received throughout history. If I didn't have
> >> >> a religion that I saw fit to follow, I would have probably been simply
> >> >> a believer in one omniscient and omnipresent God.
>
> >> >> On 1/15/12, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Was reading a concept on native american beliefs..
>
> >> >> > it is strange actually it is rereading the material .... There was
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > reference to to beliefs being born to the land. For some reason that
> >> >> > triggered a lot of thought.. what would happen the native beliefs
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > correct, and western thought is out of line. It seems that religions
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > a whole lot to do with rules and regulations and control of others.
>
> >> >> > Oddly it seems that is a western concept. One I have never known
> >> >> > among
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > native american friends,
> >> >> > Allan
>
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > (
> >> >> > )
> >> >> > |_D Allan
>
> >> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> >> > --
> >> > (
> >> > )
> >> > |_D Allan
>
> >> > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living.
>
> > --
> > (
> > )
> > |_D Allan
>
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