Re: Mind's Eye life-forms

We do, don't we. Yes.

On Jan 6, 1:24 am, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh Archy there are always alternatives and indeed as you know I
> subscribe to some of them.
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> We know though via studies done of those with brain injuries that
> personality exists in the brain, as well as gender, sexual preferance,
> emotions and ideas.
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> On Jan 4, 6:30 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > There are alternatives Lee.  Frege has what he calls ideas in the
> > personal world, the solid independent world of bricks (etc.) and
> > thoughts as a third realm.  Biologists are prone to think there is an
> > information world as well as the more solid one.  The agnostic broadly
> > doesn't want to engage in rationalist fantasy on questions like 'god'
> > seeing them as beyond resolution in our rationality.  I tend to go for
> > a base of humanity as social animal.  We have overblown the
> > intellectual in this and connected it too closely with the individual
> > and academy.
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> > On Jan 4, 4:49 pm, Lee Douglas <leerevdoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > A huge welcome from me too Eman.  I'm afraid that I shall be the voice
> > > of dissent (just for a change) and agree with RP.  All that you are
> > > takes place in the old grey matter, when that no longer functions the
> > > person is truly gone.  All thoughts and feelings take place in the
> > > brain, and what is spirituality if not an amalgamation of thoughts and
> > > feelings?
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> > > On Jan 4, 1:41 pm, Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Thank you Archytas for your  welcome. Such non physical phenomena are hard
> > > > to prove experimentally by definition but there is no need to disregard
> > > > all possibilities of existence outside the physical realm.  I personally
> > > > believe in dreams as a possible connection between the worlds of the living
> > > > and the dead, I also believe in telepathy and think that the quantum
> > > > principle of entanglement can apply to humans in someways, and I see death
> > > > as a transition between two states rather than the end of personal
> > > > existence, thinking again that once we come to life, we won't end but
> > > > transform and the data that make up our individuality lingers on in one
> > > > form or another. But then again, these are only my beliefs. This universe
> > > > is full of mysteries that we are just beginning to explore, and I think we
> > > > need to approach such mystery with openness to all possibilities.
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> > > > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I agree Abdulla - welcome as a member of the group.  Many scientists
> > > > > think an information world or third realm (of thought) exists.  I have
> > > > > always tended to agree with RP on human responsibilities but am not so
> > > > > sure on this.  I must say I doubt a lot of the evidence you suggest,
> > > > > but I'd still like to see more focus on spirituality in practice (even
> > > > > as an atheist - or at least agnostic).
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> > > > > On Jan 3, 6:05 pm, Eman Abdulla <emana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I tend to disagree as there is absolutely no proof that human
> > > > > > consciousness, let alone spirituality, is merely a function of gray
> > > > > matter.
> > > > > > Many will argue that humans leave an invisible imprint on the universe
> > > > > that
> > > > > > is felt after their physical death. Near Death experiences, communicating
> > > > > > information to the living by means of dreams, and other similar phenomena
> > > > > > that, although not captured by science, have been repeatedly reported> I
> > > > > > think that reducing spirituality to a physical fuction is a disservice to
> > > > > > science which has been able to point out the reductionist fallacies in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > areas of quantum physics and cosmology. There is still much to be
> > > > > explored
> > > > > > when it comes to one of the most complex aspects of existence, i.e, human
> > > > > > consciousness and spiritual transcendence.
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> > > > >  > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:42 AM, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The conscious-active individuality is an attribute of a living
> > > > > > > organism. When the life of an organism snuffs out, the attribute
> > > > > > > vanishes. Spirituality is tied to the physicality of an organism as it
> > > > > > > is the gray-matter in the head which determines spiritual activity.- Hide quoted text -
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