Re: Mind's Eye Some Education

I hate breivik..

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Allan H <allanh1946@gmail.com> wrote:

You are right Rigsy  it is medieval  just could not find it in the spell checker  (not very bright huh) as for Breivik I think he is creating a fantasy..  though I know of that ate very much against the muslim influnce   they are not secret organizations,  but here in the Netherlands a political party..  and they are very vocal.. and the feelings are quite wide spread..

I can not help but think that Breivik  is trying to be another Hitler instead of the Jews being the focal point it is Muslims he is trying to work up the anti - what ever sentiment to stir up trouble and get people to follow him blindly..   but I do not think he as as bright  as he see himself as.

Allan   

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:17 PM, rigsy03 <rigsy03@yahoo.com> wrote:

It was laws that we really owe to Babylon and the eastern trade routes
plus the East was able to save knowledge resources during the Dark
Ages after the barbarian invasions. Their conquest was swift and
brutal of the West though defeated and pushed back and it's pay-back
for that and the Crusades. BenLadin=the new Saladin?

You say mid-evil and I say Medieval...? The present international
banking system is beholden to the Knights Templar system. I heard KT
mentioned re Anders Breivik just yesterday but presume it has to do
with his anti-Islam "mission".

Our alphabet also evolved from the East- math and language being a
necessity of trade.

On Apr 17, 1:50 am, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I watched a program  on the mid evil mind and how they view things..  one
> of the things that was looked at education and part of it involved islam ,,
>  I always knew that number system was arabic in origin what i found
> interesting is their interest in the ancient philosophers and mathematics
> as well as other sciences,, but they did not give much detail on that end..
>
> My question is what happened to islam that it stopped its interest science
> and mathematics is one of the truly pure sciences it seems all that islam
> It seems there is no interest in harmony and co-existence is interested in
> is murder and forcing people to live their set of rules which
> is contrary to western law.
> Allan
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> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM, rigsy03 <rigs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The education system has become a means of sorting out the population
> > and not necessarily a government scam anymore than one that eases the
> > selections of politics, business, society and so on. It was probably
> > tidier in the Middle Ages with an overall system of belief and
> > practice.
>
> > On Apr 15, 10:36 pm, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm struck that universal education has failed us.  I'd go for
> > > deschooling and have education after 14 voluntary and much more
> > > related to practice (not necessarily work).  Current university
> > > programmes should be available on television and available free with
> > > Internet supervision from university hubs where academics work in the
> > > community and social and sports events are also civic rather than
> > > separated as now.  Education is currently a government scam and an
> > > export scam.
>
> > > On Apr 15, 3:23 pm, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I oscillate between visionary and lunatic fringe. If one liners paid
> > > > the bills I'd be a millionaire, the exercise comes in the unpacking so
> > > > a wee bit of sarcasm may be in order. Thanks Vam  ;-)
>
> > > > On 4/15/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Facebook has "Like", Twitter would allow "Retweet", and I could
> > re-pin
> > > > > on Pinterest ...
>
> > > > > Let's say, I am doing all three now !
>
> > > > > On Apr 15, 8:57 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> It is helpful to have an idea of process and structure and it seems
> > to
> > > > >> me you are both talking about a qualitative/individual aspect to
> > > > >> education. This is an important focus, I think all else follows from
> > > > >> the challenges to success to the contributions to society- every
> > last
> > > > >> ounce of potential is in the individual. All else is logistics of
> > > > >> scale, systematization, and mechanization.
>
> > > > >> On 4/14/12, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > Good. But my response has nothing to do eastern or western
> > anything.
>
> > > > >> > It's me. I regard any education as nothing if not leading to the
> > > > >> > evolution of something within me which gives a me perspective to
> > world
> > > > >> > and life, a values system I can touch to know what the thing or
> > matter
> > > > >> > before me means, to me.
>
> > > > >> > That should leave all the bubbles with you. And the yeast...
>
> > > > >> > On Apr 14, 8:49 pm, gabbydott <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> It looks you took Ash's mixing pot image too literal, Vam. You
> > don't
> > > > >> >> bring
> > > > >> >> order into a mixing pot by sequencing bubble terms - add some
> > yeast if
> > > > >> >> you
> > > > >> >> want to create bubbles and get your new order!
>
> > > > >> >> If wisdom is what you wish to attain, you will not be able to
> > achieve
> > > > >> >> your
> > > > >> >> goal without having taken good care of your critical eye, for it
> > is the
> > > > >> >> root that prevents you from being blinded.
>
> > > > >> >> Education does not deliver knowledge or facts - Google or my
> > newspaper
> > > > >> >> does
> > > > >> >> that. In a wider sense they also educate me, but more in the
> > sense of I
> > > > >> >> am
> > > > >> >> using their services with the intention to get access to
> > information
> > > > >> >> and
> > > > >> >> not in the sense that I wish to get formed in their image.
>
> > > > >> >> I see a big difference in eastern and western understanding of
> > what
> > > > >> >> education means.
>
> > > > >> >> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Vam <atewari2...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> >> > Education, leading to some wisdom in which our critical view
> > may take
> > > > >> >> > root, takes time... yes, Knowledge >>> Attitude >>>
> > Application >>>
> > > > >> >> > Skills involves a process of incubation, and Time.
>
> > > > >> >> > Now, the time required for specific knowledge-to-skill
> > acquisition
> > > > >> >> > process to complete differs with different people, for a
> > variety of
> > > > >> >> > reasons and factors involved.
>
> > > > >> >> > So, the society - education industry - only promises to
> > deliver the
> > > > >> >> > knowledge, leaving our any committment to orienting the
> > student's
> > > > >> >> > attitude, willing to apply and learn from it, and its
> > maturation into
> > > > >> >> > an integrated perspective and life skills.
>
> > > > >> >> > The education just delivers the knowledge, the " facts," to
> > meet a
> > > > >> >> > schedule. What a stated " fact " means, in association with
> > others
> > > > >> >> > stated and unstated, is upto the student to discover.
>
> > > > >> >> > It may happen tommorow, take a lifetime, or may never emerge !
>
> > > > >> >> > On Apr 14, 3:01 am, James Lynch <ashkas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > I think education is a mixing pot. Remove the social factors
> > and I
> > > > >> >> > > think US public education is good, here in the states we
> > believe in
> > > > >> >> > > solving social problems by expanding the prison system. o.0
> > The
> > > > >> >> > > solutions I keep hearing from people in the past year are
> > bizarre,
> > > > >> >> > > vigilante militia with public executions sort of stuff. It
> > makes me
> > > > >> >> > > wonder if it's a meme I'm missing or something. Anyway..
> > back to
> > > > >> >> > > topic.
>
> > > > >> >> > > Who has the attitude that it is a waste of time: kids,
> > parents,
> > > > >> >> > > teachers? I imagine modernizing a largely rural or isolated
> > > > >> >> > > population
> > > > >> >> > > would have some resistance, I'd say give it a few
> > generations to
> > > > >> >> > > get
> > > > >> >> > > going and put a lot of effort in recycling their traditional
> > > > >> >> > > community
> > > > >> >> > > resources. If it is a boilerplate political maneuver there
> > is still
> > > > >> >> > > social gain but I would worry about increasing resentment and
> > > > >> >> > > culture
> > > > >> >> > > clash. The roots of education predate and transcend
> > institutional
> > > > >> >> > > bureaucracy and the primary factors revolve around family and
> > > > >> >> > > community, a progressive surge could propel innovative
> > strategies
> > > > >> >> > > but
> > > > >> >> > > I think it also could decimate a culture or weaken it's
> > ability to
> > > > >> >> > > adapt and outpace growing pains/challenges.
>
> > > > >> >> > > This is an interesting topic pol, more observations please.
>
> > > > >> >> > > On 4/12/12, pol.science kid <r.freeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> >> > > > Recently, i was part of some filed work in a village ...
> > we were
> > > > >> >> > > > looking into primary education there.... well.. while
> > doing the
> > > > >> >> > > > report.. i thought i couldnt really understand education..
> > > > >> >> > > > clearly
> > > > >> >> > > > what works for the city kids wouldnt work for those in the
> > rural
> > > > >> >> > > > side..most of them do think theyre wasting their
> > time...teachers
> > > > >> >> > > > hate
> > > > >> >> > > > the kids kids hate the teachers..everyone is bitching...
> > the
> > > > >> >> > > > situation
> > > > >> >> > > > is pretty bad.. those who can do get out.. actually primary
> > > > >> >> > > > education
> > > > >> >> > > > in my country is pretty beat up... now in know most of you
> > are
> > > > >> >> > > > from
> > > > >> >> > > > the 'West'.. Sounds weird when i say it like that.. we're
> > > > >> >> > > > frequently
> > > > >> >> > > > told that primary education in the west is quite o.k. ....
> > in
> > > > >> >> > > > fact
> > > > >> >> > > > good.. What do you guys think?.. Also... how do you define
> > > > >> >> > > > education..i almost hate the term by now.. get to hear it
> > so much
> > > > >> >> > > > with
> > > > >> >> > > > people having no idea of what they mean.... what do you
> > think..?
>
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