Re: Mind's Eye Instinct for survival

It's the mind they talk of transposing to the substrate brain -
presumably it could be transferred 'forever' or the Sun explodes,
universe rips itself apart and so on RP. I do think it likely we will
get to a form of intelligence that sees the world very differently -
gravity and big bang are likely to go in science - but on the real
eternal I am unsure. All we have in respect of this is to posit
creation, begging the question of what created that in an infinite
regress. We might survive the end of the universe in another one -
some maths speculates the universe would survive its own 'end'.
Others have it the only thing that survives (before renewal) of a
universe is quantum fluctuation - but all that speculation is just
maths. I believe in something else RP - but I don't sense it directly
as far as I know and dislike the patronising fantasies of organised
religion. We might get to an intelligent state in which creation
myths are replaced by something more plausible and Truth comes closer.

On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <123...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Neil , even after re-transposition how long could the brain live
> --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long as the universe ,but
> ultimately it will die or be destroyed at the end - time of the
> universe. What survives is the Truth behind life and nothing else.
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> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas <nwte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What survives is the gene - subject to mutations etc.  We are already
> > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation.  One's mind could be
> > transposed to another substrate (nearish future) - our bodies are
> > currently replaced every 5 years or so- and the new substrate could
> > have nanobots that would allow minds to outlive Lee's 'hope'.  Such
> > substrated minds might link in super-intelligence and be able to re-
> > transfer into more human-like bodies they learned to make.  This would
> > be a time beyond singularity.  We don't know what such intelligence
> > might invent or even discover - perhaps such intelligence would
> > discover we are not as alone as we think.  Being human or human being
> > might be as irrelevant as a mitochondria wanting to live free again.
> > We might be free of the tiny machines (genes) so much part of our
> > behaviour now.
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> > On 28 Nov, 14:40, Allan H <allanh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> T9   grrrrrrr
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> >> Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
> >> On Nov 28, 2012 11:38 AM, "gabbydott" <gabbyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > Ah! That's the extended version of 'possibly maybe' then (my grammar and
> >> > spelling checker suggests 10 instead of 'then' though)! :)
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> >> > 2012/11/28 James <ashkas...@gmail.com>
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> >> >> I am an aspect of what was, is, and will be, coextensively. Maybe.
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> >> >> On 11/27/2012 2:28 AM, RP Singh wrote:
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> >> >>> Attachment to life is the cause of the desire for immortality and the
> >> >>> readiness to believe in an after-life or re-birth. It is an off-shoot of
> >> >>> the instinct for survival.
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